Diskusije : Berza

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Cuu
mksk
(fin. adv.)
14. januar 2011. u 10.01
ja cekam(vise nemam fingernails:))
..ili da prodam??
karabaya
(zabusavam)
17. januar 2011. u 14.14
Šta cekas, da kupis ili šta?
CUU rastura ovih dana a SME masti brkove :). Danas je praznik u USA a kad još oni dodju sutra ode CUU visoko preko 1$.

Ako mislis da prodajes mislim da to ne bi bila dobra ideja. Ja cekam dok TCK ne uleti i ne keshira me. Može se desiti da nas isplati u svojim dionicama sto mi ne bi bilo mrsko.

Nedavno sam najavio za ovu godinu kao moguće favorite AAA, WPX i CUM i sve tri kompanije razbijaju...

Srećno!

karabaya
(zabusavam)
17. januar 2011. u 14.18
DA PRODAS?
Prodaj odmah ali meni molim te :)

mksk
(fin. adv.)
17. januar 2011. u 19.16
hehehe..dodala sam samo još 3x10000 ..i danas sam htela još malo ali nisam.. nadam se da će sutra još malo da ide dole..;)..a ocekivala sam prošlu nedelju da bude već preko $1..
nego dali znaš kad će min.$3:))) ja bih da „Cash-iram” $100 000+ sto prije:))))
karabaya
(zabusavam)
18. januar 2011. u 08.30
To ne znam tačno ali se nadam da će biti negdje krajem marta mada se može desiti i ranije. Onog momenta kad TCK objavi back in cijena će skociti i možeš da kesiras ako hoćeš, ali ja ću cekati do kraja. Ovo cekam 3 godine pa mogu još mjesec - dva :)

Jel'da da imam dobru veceru u nekom finom restoranu u Torontu?
Ti i SME ćete da podijelite ceh :)
mksk
(fin. adv.)
19. januar 2011. u 14.02
OK..deal!
nego evo spremam se da kupim još 10000-12000..ide dole, sacekacu još nekih 4-5 cents..samo da bude ispod $1:)
SME
(vernik)
19. januar 2011. u 22.57
Jako sam zauzet na poslu ali sve je pod kontrolom.
Srećno !
karabaya
(zabusavam)
20. januar 2011. u 08.40
Pozdrav Hamiltonu, dobro te je vidjeti opet... izvinjenje primljeno.

mksk, bojim se da nećeš imati prilike da dokupis ispod dolara. Juče je cijena bakra opala za 6$ i kad tada nije palo ne vjerujem da će ikad vise. Može da se desi ali...

Danas ili sutra ocekujem da objave rezultate o zadnjoj busotini a ona bi morala biti spektakularna posto je radjena na mjestu gdje je geofizicko skeniranje dalo najbolje rezultate. Ovaj vikend je sajam rudarstva u Vancouveru, CUU ima svoju prezentaciju pa će mnogi investitori biti upoznati sa kompanijom i njenim potencijalom. Sem toga može se ocekivati ovih dana i zvanicno potpisivanje izgradnje dalekovoda, a svi ocekujemo rezultate laboratorije u vezi starih uzoraka koji nikad nisu testirani na zlato i srebro.
Sve će se ovo desavati u naredne dvije sedmice pa možda ne bi bilo loše da kupis posto poto jer ne vjerujem da će cijena opasti.

Sem toga ono sto je meni promicalo godinama i na sto nisam obracao paznju su tragovi renijuma u mineralizaciji molibdena koga imamo dosta. Ne znam da postoji ista skuplje, valjda je cijena 1 grama par hiljada dolara ili ovako nešto. Ne znam koliko ga ima ali ima ga.

Sretno danas.
mksk
(fin. adv.)
20. januar 2011. u 09.57
kupila sam i juče i danas nešto za.99 nešto za 1.00
samo..možda sam trebala još malo da sacekam..mislim da ide dole još malo..
šta je tu je..ajde cent -dva, pa i tri who cares..:)
karabaya
(zabusavam)
20. januar 2011. u 15.36
Uh ode marked danas u provaliju, bakar -13$... dobro se i držimo kako nas samaraju :)
Gledam sa ove moje watch liste od 50 kompanija samo 3 su u zelenom, nevidjeno.
Profesor-Kanada
(Profesor)
20. januar 2011. u 17.17

Korekcija berze je korisna i potrebna. Već od početka XII/2010,
očekujem da berza krene prema jugu oko 5% do 8%.
karabaya
(zabusavam)
21. januar 2011. u 13.32
Izgleda da nije bila nikakva bitnija korekcija, samo Kina malo kinula pa se svi ostali upiskili. Evo danas je već druga prica CUU +0.09 trenutno.
mksk
(fin. adv.)
25. januar 2011. u 10.01
ide ispod $1 danas.
karabaya
(zabusavam)
25. januar 2011. u 15.17
Da sve je danas na glavi ne samo commodities čak i banke.
Možda ovo podizanje kamatne stope u Indiji ima uticaja, ko će ga znati?

Ja se ne obazirem na dnevne fluktuacije. Da imam koju paru sa strane danas bih kupio još.
mksk
(fin. adv.)
03. februar 2011. u 09.59
.94 cekacemo još duugo nazalost kako stvari stoje
karabaya
(zabusavam)
03. februar 2011. u 16.50
Mnogo si mi nestrpljiva a to nije dobro.
Ugledaj se na mene :)

Bez sale, ako hoćeš da se kockas, prodaj i kupi nešto drugo ali ako hoćeš da zaradis bez rizika ja bih ti savjetovao da stavis suncane, naspes gin tonic, stavis noge na sto i pratis utakmicu.
mksk
(fin. adv.)
04. februar 2011. u 09.59
ma da..i ja bih da gledam utakmicu ako sam ih kupila ko ti .15:)) ..još malo i idem u red..and i HATE red:)...91 ..i mislim .85 is on its way.pa dokle da balasiram?:))

ajde next week biće Green:)
karabaya
(zabusavam)
04. februar 2011. u 12.18
U međuvremenu dok se dosadjujes i cekas evo ti malo literature:)

The white elephant under 404 tells us something very important. It's volcanic rock squeezed up from below. The deposit is a lens and this is the center. That means the deposit extends out in all directions with minimal shearing. I suggested it was tilted at an angle and distorted roughly in a squished horse shoe shape and this turns out to be correct. That means much more depth than was thought. It also means the north is the best chance to seriously extend the pit.

The upper 82m of DDH CF404 intersected andesite and thereafter was completed to a depth of 255m in a series of late, post mineralization porphyritic, dioritic to gabbroic intrusive dikes (See link below).
http://www.jstor.org/pss/30068500 This is a bit technical and while not directly related it does provide sufficient info to support my thinking.

Gabbroic (Long belts of gabbroic intrusions are typically formed at proto-rift zones and around ancient rift zone margins, intruding into the rift flanks.)

Corroboration:

DDH CF402 is located 154m north of DDH CF398. The mineralization is primarily hosted in potassic altered intrusive breccia overprinted by argillic and abundant vein controlled propylitic alteration. The mineralization is open to the north, at depth and to the east under Mount La Casse. This drill hole has deepened the mineralization on this section an additional 140m.

405 and 406 will be slightly better with more silver.

Look at the silver values at depths. You can form a mental 3D Layer picture of what's going on. You don't need to be a geologist to see it. (Strongly phyllic and potassic altered and chalcopyrite rich feldspar porhyritic intrusive clasts within the thrust strongly suggest the presence of a copper porphyry below the thrust). So guess what. Big value at depth. The IP doesn't go deep enough. http://www.quantecgeoscience.com/Tech/Titan24.php Also while reading this you may want to look at the images found here http://www.copperfoxmetals.com/s/SchaftCreek.asp?ReportID=209032

I've been busy plotting results for self amusement. The above assesment is correct. They should definately do a high level airbourne. I suspect they would find 4 times the current resource! Same grades but with thinning depth as the lens spreads out and some pockets. I had said 404 should be drilled really deep. It is the point where all this bubbled up. Well worth a look see. The more we understand about the mineralization from the origin the better. But, and airbourne would do the trick because this is a pit.

The match to set off the powder keg is the NTL. It's the only thing holding up major SP movement. I like the current trading bands. This gives us opportunity to exploit our positions and we have detailed knowledge of the patterns. From todays trades I can see about 20k worth that didn't make money because the buyers didn't recognize our patterns. There will be dissapointment and the price will drop some more. Enough to go short? I would not risk it. If you sold some on todays upswing and bought back, you made free shares. I look forward to more of this.

Todays news was because of the other guys interview posted the other day. So finally, we are beginning to see copper fox become aware of the importance of good pr. I noted the facebook notification came very tardily. SHAME ON YOU GUYS. Be glad I'm not the pr boss, there would be a sacking. But in light of their new recognition of keeping us informed I'll add 1 point to the management's score.

Conclusion:
There are 4 times as many pounds in the ground. We will find other valuable minerals on the site. A detailed study of 12 meduim to giant deposits with the same chemistry reveals that the surrounding areas yield good results and in some cases more gold and silver. Copper Mountain is a good example. It does matter a bit where you are located and what your share structure is but in general EVERYONE is doing better than us. After much reduction there is only one possible reason. The NTL. Even taking into consideration that CUU has its own back up plan for power this single factor is what is holding the majority back.

Timeliness. Will CUU beat the potential coming crunch. (The big one). Unless they improve response time and get the work done then I would have to say no. Yup, I know they have had more snow than ever but I say suck it up Princess. Just hike your skirts gentlmen and get to work. The clock is ticking. I don't like hearing Q2 and I certainly don't want to hear Q3. Hire some more people and get it done or in the words of the Donald, „Your Fired”.

orisni
(diskutant)
05. februar 2011. u 07.33
Ovo na kraju je trebalo da piše „You're fired”. Ostalo nisam sve procitao u detalj, ali nisu valjda neke velike tajne. :)
mksk
(fin. adv.)
08. februar 2011. u 11.38
heh, ovako ako potraje trebace mi nka knjiga u 1600 toma:))
a juče sam se obradovala, danas vidim for nothing..ajde ako ništa drugo, opet da balansiram:)

(mora da uloizm profit, INT.VN is my baby:))
karabaya
(zabusavam)
09. februar 2011. u 08.35
Kupio sam u petak nešto malo MFM i dobro prosao... valjda će da potraje?

Što se tiče CUU u naredna 3 dana ocekujem vijesti o dvije preostale busotine i rezultate naknadnih analiza na stare uzorke, a do kraja mjeseca i konacnu odluku o izgradnji dalekovoda sto će biti bomba.

Go Foxy, GO!

PS
Pred Novu godinu sam pravio neke analize za 2011 i jedna od kompanija gdje sam mislio uloziti pare nakon kesiranja CUU je bila AAA. Na zalost preduhitrili su me :((((
mksk
(fin. adv.)
09. februar 2011. u 13.52
danas se bas dobro drzi(CUU)

kupila sam AAA možda prije nekih 3 nedelja milsim 1.01 i prodala sam ih prekjuce 2.16-17..malo mi je bilo krivo kad sam videla 2.30 and up negde..ali sam danas HAPPYYYY..moje srce ne bi podneo onaj pad;)
(lesson learned from CLQ.To)
karabaya
(zabusavam)
10. februar 2011. u 10.03
'si vidila šta stop loss može da uradi, a?
Sa 2.40 na 1.20 u par sekundi... majstori pokupili shares i sad ih prodaju nesrecnicima po duploj cijeni :))))

Nikad, ali nikad ne stavljati stop loss!

Danas ili sutra ocekujemo objavljivanja laboratorijskih nalaza dvije zadnje busotine, a iduce sedmice rezultate resampling programa. Semicu iza toga konacno objavljivanje izgradnje dalekovoda.

U martu estimate baziran na busenjima u prosloj godini i nadam se da će se rezerve uduplati.

Ako se u međuvremenu ne urusi nebo, biće veselo a meni se smjesi vecera.
goldmz23
15. februar 2011. u 02.01
I ja se zanimam za ulazak u CUU pa imam par pitanja, pošto nemam iskustva sa ulaganjem u dionice

- kolika je minimalna suma EUR za kupovinu CUU stock?

- karabaya, pošto najviše pratiš ovu firmu i sam si bio pokretač teme, a možete i ostali odgovoriti, zanima me koja je maximalna cena za stock CUU koju očekujete u roku 6 meseci ili za 1.5 godinu odnosno kod koje cene izlaziš van iz CUU?

Kolika je šansa, da sada u toj fazi rasta ( od 0,14 do 1.12 USD ca. 700 % što je enormno) stocks padnu na neki minimum? Brine me i ratio P/E koji iznosi oko 14, a čuo sam da je to puno.

- koja je prosečna provizija kod brokera za kupovinu i za prodaju?

- dali se mogu dionice kupiti kod brokera iz Austrije ili moram otvarati račun u inostranstvu ( USA,... ) ?

Zahvaljujem za odgovor!
goldmz23
15. februar 2011. u 12.13
+ još jedno pitanje sam zaboravio, koliko ima cena bakra veze sa cenom dionice ako uzmemo u obzir još to da su cene bakra rekordne?
karabaya
(zabusavam)
15. februar 2011. u 18.51
Mnogo pitanja, neka malo skakljiva ali da probam.

- Pošto je cijena presla 1$ lotovi za kupovinu su od po 100 komada. Znaci minimalna cijena je 100 x trenutna cijena. Ako cijena padne ispod 1$ onda su lotovi od po 500 komada.

- maksimalnu cijenu ne znam dok ne objave nove konsolidovane rezultate nalazista ali minimalna neće biti manja od 3.00 $. Za 6 mjeseci CUU neće vise postojati, otkupice ga TCK, NG ili neko treci ko ponudi najbolju cijenu.

- nema sanse da cijena padne, nalaziste je dobro istrazeno i sve je na svom mjestu; sve se manje-vise zna. Rizika nema sem da dodje smak svijeta.

- kolika je provizija kod tvog brokera ne znam ali ja placam 9,99$ po transakciji.

- Ne znam za Austriju ali znam da je CUU izlistan recimo u Holandiji. Raspitaj se kod svog brokera. Ako je izlistan na vasoj berzi ne bi trebalo biti problema da kupis za EU.

- cijena bakra svakako utice na cijenu dionica jer sa povecanjem cijene bakra raste i vrijednost nalazista. Kad se bude radila konacna kalkulacija (krajem marta) ta cijena će se uzeti u obzir. Naravno, neće se vrijednost „in ground” racunati po trenutnoj cijeni nego će se uzeti prosjek zadnjih godina, ali rekordna cijena svakako utice. Pošto se ocekuje dalji rast cijene bakra u narednim godinama (biće nestasica) onda ćemo vrlo vjerovatno dobiti i neki premijum na prosjecnu cijenu u zadnje 3 godine.

Ako stvarno želiš da ulozis u CUU moras pozuriti, bojim se da će za par dana cijena znatno skociti jer ocekujemo neke dobre vijesti.

Danas je pristigla recimo ova:
February 15, 2011 (TORONTO)
- TSX Venture Exchange today announced its 2011 TSX Venture 50, a ranking of strong performing companies listed on TSX Venture Exchange.

The 2011 TSX Venture 50 companies were chosen based on the following criteria, with equal weighting assigned to each: share price appreciation, trading volume, market capitalization growth and analyst coverage.

The year's top ranked company is: Copper Fox Metals Inc. (CUU), a Vancouver-based mining company.
The top ranked companies from the five industry sectors are:

Clean Technology: AgriMarine Holdings Inc. (FSH)
Diversified Industries: Western Energy Services Corp. (WRG)
Mining: Copper Fox Metals Inc.(CUU)
Oil & Gas: Xcite Energy Limited (XEL)
Technology & Life Sciences: Titan Medical Inc. (TMD)
ryan
(nema)
17. februar 2011. u 14.28
Evo gledam sada, 1.20. Ima li šanse da bude kakve korekcije na dole, da se kupi po malo jeftinijoj ceni?
SME
(vernik)
17. februar 2011. u 15.59
:)))))

Da ne bude zabune...ovo mi se brkovi smeskaju !!!

Živeo Karabaya !!!
mksk
(fin. adv.)
17. februar 2011. u 16.16
1.30 & gap UP tomorrow morning:)))

karabaya
(zabusavam)
18. februar 2011. u 06.47
:)))

Bojim se da nema vise velike sanse za silazak... možda da daily flippers obore za koji cent tu i tamo ali utakmica zapravo tek pocinje.
Možda čak danas objave laboratorijske analize dvije preostale busotine 405 i 406 koje su zapravo na „najubojitijem” mjestu. Ja se nadam spektakularnim rezultatima, ocekujem mineralizaciju od preko 1% a buseno je na dubinu od 700m. Kad to objave krenucu da radim grubu kalkulaciju i mislim da će slika biti jasnija. Shaft Creek je bez sumnje već sada jedno od najvecih nalazista na svijetu.

Kako saznajem kompletan management je danas i sutra na Whistleru gdje su po pozivu i razgovarace sa najvecim investitorima u Kanadi prezentirajuci kompaniju. Kad oni udju u igru tek će da nastane tarapana.
U naredne dvije nedelje ocekujem masu pozitivnih vijesti a najvaznija je svakako odobrenje izgradnje dalekovoda. Tu su zatim već pomenuti rezultati dvije zadnje busotine kao i laboratorijske analize starih uzoraka iz 60-tih, 70-tih i 80-tih koje nikad nisu analizirani na zlato i srebro. Dakle naredne dvije nedelje će biti veselo.

Negdje u drugoj polovini marta prošle godine sam se prvi put javio ovde sa preporukom da se oni koji igraju na TSX-u zainteresuju za CUU, a cijena je bila to se dobro sjecam negdje oko 0,15 - 0,17 $.

Pozdrav diskusiji i da vidimo šta će danas biti.
Sretno svima!
goldmz23
19. februar 2011. u 15.40
Karabaya hvala na odgovoru!

Zbog nedostatka para nisam mogao u kupovinu, sada je taj problem rešen.

U međuvremenu se je cena poprilično dignula pa sada ne znam dali je još vreme za ulazak.

U ponedeljak mislim uložiti ca. 15.000 do 20.000 EUR, i to bi mi bio prvi trade u životu.

Molim za savet dali je OK kupovina CUU-a i kada bi bilo, po kojoj ceni dobro kupiti i izaći iz trade-a CUU-a.

Unapred zahvaljujem na odgovoru!
karabaya
(zabusavam)
20. februar 2011. u 07.26
Prijatelju dragi to ti ne mogu reci, to ćeš morati sam odluciti. Nemoj me krivo shvatiti ali ne mogu da ti kažem da li da kupis ili ne? Ovo je ipak kockarnica, a situacija u svijetu nije bas sjajna što se ekonomije tiče (biće još gora) i svasta može da se desi.

Ja bih ti preporucio da prostudiras malo pa odluci; a i ja sam ostavio dosta podataka ovde u ovih godinu dana.

Jedino sto mogu sad da kažem sa velikom vjerovatnocom je da se ja nadam da će TCK ili neko drugi da otkupi CUU do ljeta i da cijena ne bi trebala da bude manja od 3$ po mojim nekim vrlo obazrivim i konzervativnim proracunima.
Naravno ja se nadam da će biti i vise ali ne mogu to da odgovorno tvrdim. Prije godinu dana cijena je bila 0.15$ i tada sam „znao” da će za godinu dana cijena da poraste 1000%, ali sada nakon tih 1000% je jako teško reci.

Volio bih i ja da znam 100% šta će biti do jula recimo i da ti pomognem ali ne bih mogao podnijeti cinjenicu da si na moj nagovor izgubio teško zaradjene pare.
PortoTRADE
21. februar 2011. u 10.29

Profesionalci kažu da nadjes dobre akcije, odredis vreme za kupovinu i kupis dve do tri za početak. I to se zove „portfoilo”. Zašto dve, tri?
To je iz tog razloga ako nisi siguran u jednu onda uzmes dve ili tri jer se veoma retko desi da sve odu u minus. I često pokrivaju jedna drugu. Uostalom tako nešto piše i u strucnoj literaturi. Samo da spomenem kaže se da eventualno treba izdvojiti najviše samo 20 do 30 posto od svoje gotovine, ako želiš da pocnes da se bavis trgovinom (trading) akcija.

Kako nije realno da racunas da ćeš preko noćizaraditi vesestruko nego sto si ulozio tako nije realno ni da verujes ćeš sa dobrim akcijama izgubiti puno vise nego sto si ulozio. Doza rizika „uvek” postoji, svejedno cime se bavis.

A posto ovde postoji kvalitetna diskusija (kako vidim), dobro bi bilo da pratis šta ljudi predlazu i šta misle. Ja sam lično profitirao od ove diskusije.

Do uskoro...

karabaya
(zabusavam)
23. februar 2011. u 10.28
Izgleda da je juče bio idealan dan za kupovinu.
Evo jutros nakon objavljenih rezultata 405 i 406 vracamo se na poziciju od prošle nedelje.
Ja sam malo omasio u prognozi, ocekivao sam mineralizaciju veću od 1% ali malo je niza. Nema veze i dalje je sjajna slika a rezerve u zemlji se povecavaju iz dana u dan. Sutra ili prekosutra bi trebali da se objave rezultati starih uzoraka a do ponedeljeka konacna odluka o izgradnji dalekovoda.

Svi analiticari predvidjaju nestasicu bakra u narednih 10 ili vise godina i svi kanadski juniori će biti na udaru. Preporucio bih svima da potraže dobre juniore i uloze nešto para, biće velikih akvizicija ove godine. Bakar rules :)
ryan
(nema)
23. februar 2011. u 11.04
Šta milsiš o CZN?
karabaya
(zabusavam)
23. februar 2011. u 13.55
Na zalost o CZN ne znam ništa, nisu ni na mojoj watch listi juniora ali evo vidim da im ide dosta dobro u poslednje vrijeme... vjerovatno s razlogom.

CUU je danas objavio novu kartu nalazista i najvjerovatnije planiraju dalje busenje prema ogromnoj mineralizaciji desno od dosadasnjih busotina. Ovo podrucje nije do sada uopste istrazeno i ako se potvrdi u praksi ovo sto je dobijeno Titan skeniranjem Schaft Creek bi mogao da bude nekoliko puta veci nego je iko ikad pretpostavljao. Izgleda da su bas zbog ovoga prošle sedmice namicali pare za dalja busenja.

Kao sto rekoh neki dan, utakmica tek pocinje a Smederevcu se brkovi smiju. A da budem iskren i meni :)

SME, baci pogled na link.

http://www.copperfoxmetals.com/i/maps/Figure-1-Interpreted-X_Sect_6360900mN.jpg
karabaya
(zabusavam)
25. februar 2011. u 10.34
Having a time of my life :)
SME
(vernik)
25. februar 2011. u 13.18
Znao sam da ću naći neki novi tvoj komentar, nisi sam i ja sam tu u blizini:)
Ako nađemvremena javicu se veceras da te još nešto pitam.
Pozdrav
karabaya
(zabusavam)
25. februar 2011. u 15.17
U međuvremenu evo još malo literature... doduse ništa novo samo strucnjaci otkrivaju ono sto sam ja otkrio prije 2 godine :)

TORONTO, February 24, 2011 – Don Coxe, Strategy Advisor, BMO Capital Markets, will be available for interviews to discuss his long-term outlook for the metals & mining sector during BMO Capital Markets’ 20th Annual Global Metals & Mining Conference.

With 2011 marking the 20th anniversary of BMO’s Metals and Mining conference, Mr. Coxe will look back at how the mining industry has changed over the past two decades, and what the future for the sector may hold.

Mr. Coxe will also discuss highlights of his most recent Basic Points report. Entitled „Metals Take Center Stage,” the report looks at how world events are shaping the outlook for both precious and base metals this year.

„The story of the global economy of the past year, in great measure, is displayed in the relative performance of gold, silver and copper,” said Mr. Coxe. „However, the outlook this year is more complicated, although we still believe all three will do well on a year-over-year basis.”

PS
Odlucio sam - Fiji.
:))))))
SME
(vernik)
25. februar 2011. u 22.46
Evo me !

Kao prvo da se osvrnem na mapu. Šta znaci ovo crveno jezgro na desnoj strani ?
Vidim da su prošli kroz jedno takvo jezgro u sredini i nema nikakvih rezultata, dali to znači da ako krenu još u desno da NIJE zagarantovano da će naici na veću mineralizaciju.

Inače ocigledno je da se nešto desava jer su im akcije porasle za 70 % u roku od 15 dana. Iako je lepo gledati taj rast, pomalo se plasim da je to previse ubzano i da može doći do obaranja sledeće sedmice. Verujem da neće otici ispod 1-og dolara ali sve mi mirise da će ipak biti rasprodaje već od ponedeljka.

Ne znam kakve još podatke treba da objave, nemam vremena da se upustam u detalje, ti si mi ipak pouzdaniji i iskusniji u ovom podrucju, ali smatram da cena bakra na trzistu neće uticati na vrednost akcije, to pokazuju akcije drugih kompanija, pa čak u CGG koji se još nije vratio na nivo od prošle godine kad je udario do 6.50 dolara. Verujem da će se cena akcije CUU ponasati prema njihovim rezultatima

Ponekad mi je zao sto nemam vise vremena jer za neki day trading ili „weekly trading” SK.VN je bio idealan. Već pola godine stalno ide gore dole za 10-ak procenata. Kao po nekom pravilu, kad ode gore za 10% drugi dan , ili za para dana, opadne za 10-15 % i tako u krug.

Rekao sam ti da imam vise racuna, jedan od njih uskoro zavrsava svoju „misiju” reci mi šta bi mi predlozio, koju akciju, da bi ocuvao capital za neko vreme, ili ako ti je lakse, šta da uradimo ako se to desi da akcije CUU dostignu 3 dolara tj. neko ih kupi, šta uraditi sa CUU tj ako ih prodamo šta bi ti kupio ili šta bi uradio sa novcem, osim ako krenes na Fiji :)
karabaya
(zabusavam)
26. februar 2011. u 06.22
Najprije malo o karti:

Primjetices da su sve stare busotine (brojevi pocinju sa 1 i 2) upravo na mjestima gdje mineralizacija izbija na povrsinu. One su radjene još 60-tih i 70-tih kad se radilo bukvalno lopatom i pijukom i nije postojala nikakva tehnologija skeniranja dubljih slojeva. Sve ove busotine su naravno dale rezultate jer su radjene direktno u vidljivoj mineralizaciji.
Sada imamo potpuno drugu sliku nakon Titan survey skeniranja od prošle godine. Prva na meti je bila busotina CF398 koja je do sada dala najbolje rezultate a prije par dana su objavljeni rezultati CF406 koji su još bolji. Znaci što se vise priblizavamo velikoj crvenoj lopti rezultati su sve bolji.
Prema procjenama geologa ova lopta je zapravo srce cijelog sistema za koju se nije znalo i nova busenja, koja bi trebalo da zapocnu čim se snijeg malo otopi, će nam donijeti potvrdu. Ako se ispostavi da je Titan dao pravu sliku, a CF398 i CF405 su dobar indikator, onda sam bog zna šta sve i koliko lezi tamo. Prema svemu već sad poznatom ovo je jedno od najvecih nalazista na svijetu a mogu misliti šta će tek biti kad se desifruje „lopta”. Ja sam mislio da radim kalkulaciju na osnovu rezultata CF405 i 406 ali kad sam vidio ovo odustao sam jer je besmisleno. Sad samo trebamo cekati početak busenja u srce sistema i rezultate.

Rasprodaje ne vjerujem da će biti jer institucije tek ulaze u igru tako da daily flippers neće imati veci impakt... danas je volume bio preko 5 miliona. S druge strane ovde vise nema razocarenja, mi nismo kompanija koja je ubola na slijepo jednu dobru busotinu pa stockovi skocili na bazi spekulacije, nego je samo pitanje koliko se još vrijednosti može dodati na već ogromno nalaziste. Sve su se kockice slozile, odobrena je izgradnja dalekovoda, dakle jeftina energija, uradjena je ekoloska studija i nema nikakvih problema s te strane, postignuta je saglasnost sa Indijancima koji su čak ukljuceni u projekat itd...
Narednih 6 - 7 godina će biti nestasica bakra, Zalihe u Cileu i Indoneziji se polako iscrpljuju a nema dovoljno novih rudnika da to nadoknade odnosno ne samo da ne mogu da podrže postojeci rast ekonomije nego ni da održe sadasnji nivo.

Ne znam još sigurno ni ja gdje ću da investiram poslije... sve zavisi koliko para ću dobiti, ali mislim da neću do iduce Nove godine ništa bitno ulagati sem nešto malo u ove moje juniore... definitivno ne vise od 20%. Ostavicu cash sa strane jer procjenjujem da bi na ljeto/jesen moglo dodci do novog kraha ekonomije još većeg nego prije dvije godine pa bih onda kad se prasina slegne negdje iduce godine pokupovao stokove banaka i velikih rudarskih i energetskih sistema koji naravno isplacuju socne dividende.
Ah da, kupicu definitivno nešto zlata i srebra cisto da imam u kuci i to će mi biti prvo nakon kesiranja a čim se vratim sa Fiji-ja :)))
mksk
(fin. adv.)
26. februar 2011. u 08.50
„Inače ocigledno je da se nešto desava jer su im akcije porasle za 70 % u roku od 15 dana. Iako je lepo gledati taj rast, pomalo se plasim da je to previse ubzano i da može doći do obaranja sledeće sedmice. Verujem da neće otici ispod 1-og dolara ali sve mi mirise da će ipak biti rasprodaje već od ponedeljka.”
Nazalost, Sme i ja se toga plasim..čak sto vise bilo je i insider selling(411 ooo negde)..možda to nije puno, ali ima puno koji i neznaju sve u detalje i sve sto vide i procitaju u to i veruju..drugo, nisu svi kupili po SP od 10-15 cents..nadam se da nije ovo bilo sam „on hype”..ajde videcemo. mrzim onaj panic selling..PP shrare sprice im je 1.65 milsim tako?

too much too soon.

mksk
(fin. adv.)
26. februar 2011. u 08.58
još nešto..ja samo cekam da SP malo padne..eto bar do negde 1.25,moram da dokupim (fali mi za BOra-Bora:)))
karabaya
(zabusavam)
26. februar 2011. u 12.44
Prpa a, a, a? :)

Ovaj insider seling me uopste ne zabrinjava jer je zanemarljiv i kap u moru njihove kupovine. Pa oni imaju upciju da odrade flow through za 1.5$ a sem toga kupovali su na otvorenom masovno i kad je cijena bila preko dolara. Još nešto, oval mali sell se dogodio bas dva dana pred obracun takse i zar ti to ne govori bas ništa?
Bilo je takvih malih prodaja tokom cijele godine, ne zaboravi da oni nemaju plate i moraju ponekad da namaknu koji dolar. Insajderi imaju preko 200 MILIONA dionica i ovo nazivati insider selling je stvarno smijesno.

AAA drop od prije par nedelja se nama neće desiti jer su oni spekulatvni stock baziran na jednoj jedinoj uspjesnoj busotini a mi smo to davno zavrsili.

Bora Bora... hmmm nije loše to mi nije palo na pamet. A mogli bi se dogovoriti pa zajedno ti ja i Smederevac da odemo i proslavimo tamo. Familije ukljucene, naravno :)
karabaya
(zabusavam)
26. februar 2011. u 16.53
A evo i objašnjenja iz prve ruke:

1) Insiders still buying at $1.50 yesterday.
2) Insider sells 411,300 shares for proceeds of $627,684 TO BUY 500,000 shares at $1.25 (plus warrants) at $625,000. (that would explain the odd 411,300 number)

Dakle prodali da bi kupili još vise.
Baci tabletice za smirenje nema potrebe, sve je pod kontrolom? :)))))

I još da dodam da ovaj zadnji skok koji vama izgleda kao da je pao s neba meni koji pratim kompaniju preko 4 godine ovo predstavlja samo normalan i ocekivan tok dogadjaja... and the best is yet to come.
SME
(vernik)
26. februar 2011. u 22.29
Karabaya,
Znaci dok se ne zavrsi sledeće busenje, neće biti prodaje kompanije. Ne znam koliko dugo traje busenje i kad će se objaviti rezultati ali to daje sansu velikima da se još malo igraju tj. da obore cenu cisto da bi dokupili još malo za kasnije.
Možda sam negde preskocio tvoj komentar ali nisam znao da je odobrena izgradnja dalekovoda, to je ipak ohrabrujuca vest jer niko nebi ulozio novac za tako nešto bez pouzdanih informacija.

Ja smatram da neće doći do nekog većeg kraha ekonomije, ja na poslu radim za jedan projekat koji je po svojoj nameni do sada nejveci takav projekat u Americi, vezan je direktno za gradnju novih kuca, nazalost ne mogu vise da kažem, ali radi se o multimilonskom projektu ( zbog toga sam toliko zauzet na poslu) i verujem da ti ljudi nisu ulozili novac bez preciznih kalkulacija.

Poznato ti je da imam neke nekretnine pa zato pratim i takve informacije, upravo prošle sedmice je CMHC – Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation objavili Forecast za sledeće dve godine gde se kaže da će verovatno doći do povecanja nezaposlenosti i da će zbog toga kamata za kredite ostati niska sto će pospesiti prodaju novih kuca. Pored svega ocekuje se stabilan market i blagi rast cena nekretnina u obe godine.
To sve nije zagarantovano jer uvek ima iznenadjenja kao sto su Egipat, Libija…
mksk
(fin. adv.)
26. februar 2011. u 22.45
ma ja ne brinem uopste..čak sto vise rekla sam da mi treba da dokupim još nešto malo i nadam se na $1.25:))))( i to nadam se bas ovih dana:))..mislim da bas ima puno i day traders penny flippers..i 80% sam sigurna da će da bude i malo rasprodaje sledećih par dana..pa, videcemo..kako i da je..meni ide u prilog

karabaya, nikad nikad nikad nisi do sada prodao od kad si kupio .15? ili možda nešto sitno?
SME
(vernik)
26. februar 2011. u 22.47
Zaboravio sam da pitam, koje su to kompanije sa tvoje liste za koje smatras da isplacuju socne dvidende?
PortoTRADE
27. februar 2011. u 09.36

Kanadjani gde ste?
Niste još ni novce podigli a već razmišljate gde bi i šta bi...:)

Bio sam juče na nekom skupu investitora u Cirihu. Tamo sretnem neke Kineske biznismene koji tvrde da će Kina u naredno vreme još da ogranici „Hightech” izvoz zbog strateskih Metala. Optereceni su
potrebom, pa se plase da nebude nestasice i za njih.

Dok dobar deo Evrope a pogotovu Nemacka, već duže vreme podmiruju svoje potrebe (raw materials) „knap”. Stoga će najverovatnije početi još agresivnije investiranje u toj oblasti da bi se manje zavislo od Kine. A mislim da i Ameri idu u tom pravcu. Što se tiče Svajcaraca oni ulazu svuda i na svakom mestu koje je prosperiterno, mada ih malo brine i Dolar i Euro, jer su za manje od godinu dana pali puno u odnosu na SFranak sto opterecuje donekle njihovu privredu. Inače Banke su im prepune para, pogotovu se osetio priliv zadnju godinu dana.

A da, da ne zaboravim da vas pitam...kojeg brokera preporucujete
u Kanadi (za Stock, Forex, Options,...), osim QuestTradea? Sa kojim vi radite?

Profesor-Kanada
(Profesor)
27. februar 2011. u 10.06
Rank Broker 2010 Score (100%)

1 Qtrade Investor 81.1

2 RBC Direct Investing 75.3

3 BMO InvestorLine 70.5

4 TD Waterhouse 70.1

5 Credential Direct 70

6 Scotia iTrade 66

7 Questrade 59

8 CIBC Investor's Edge 58.8

9 Disnat (Classic) 58.2

10 National Bank Direct Brokerage 52.311

11 ScotiaMcLeod Direct Investing 48.512

12 HSBC InvestDirect 45

13 Virtual Brokers Incomplete
karabaya
(zabusavam)
27. februar 2011. u 10.10
Nikad, nikad, ali nikad nisam prodao ni jednu jedinu a kupujem CUU evo već 4 godine. Kupovao sam i kad je bilo oko 1$ prije tri godine i kad je TCK objavio da dize ruke od Galore Creek-a i market otisao u PM a CUU pao na 0.06$ nisam prodao ni jednu. Nastavio sam da kupujem jer sam znao potencijal nalazista, vjerovao managementu a znao sam i kojim putem će cijene metala i ostalih commodities krenuti nakon kraha berza.
Bilo je malo grickanja noktiju, da se ne lažemo, ali svaki put kad bih dosao u iskusenje da prodam vratio bih se na fundamentals, napravio novu kalkulaciju i onda dokupio još :).
Nazovi to glupost, ponos, ego, tvrdoglavost... kako hoćeš ali evo vraca mi se big time to što nisam nikad odustao od globalne slike koju sam imao. Nekako sam od početka „znao” da je CUU prilika koja se ne ukazuje često u zivotu... jedna prica koja će se zavrsiti sretno ali treba samo izdrzati.
Kad se ovo zavrsi nadam se da će mi cifra na racunu biti puna satisfakcija za malo nacete nerve :))))))))))

SME tu prije svega mislim na big five: RB, TD, BNS, BMO i manje vise CIBC mada mi se vise od njih svidja NB koja ja u velikom usponu mada fokusirana na Quebec. Narednih mjeseci ću pratiti kretanje energetskog sektora i tu takođe traziti uspjesne igrace... Husky mi se čini kao dobar kandidat, sire se velikom brzinom u Ontariu. Dalje tu su Suncor i ostala bratija sa zapada a ne bih zanemario ni Canadian Tire. Od rudarskih kompanija naravno TCK pa i NG ciji potencijal u Argentini se ne bi smio zanemariti.

Ovo nabacujem onako odoka, ništa još nisam odlucio samo napominjem u kom pravcu sad razmišljam što se može promijeniti sa situacijom na marketu.
Ali ajde prvo da keshiramo CUU, da to proslavimo pa ćemo onda da vidimo šta i kako dalje.
karabaya
(zabusavam)
27. februar 2011. u 15.08
Sumirano i dokumentovano:

WHAT WE HAVE:

* MASSIVE INSIDER BUYING! 65% shares held by management
http://www.stockhouse.com/Bullboards/MessageDetail.aspx?s=CUU&t=LIST&m=29325553&l=0&pd=0&r=0

* COPPER FOX LISTED AS TOP RANKED COMPANY IN 2010
http://www.tmx.com/en/news_events/news/news_releases/2011/2-15-2011_TMXGroup-2011Venture50.html

* NTL approved: VICTORIA – British Columbia Hydro and Power Authority (BC Hydro) has received an environmental assessment certificate for the proposed Northwest Transmission Line project.
http://www2.news.gov.bc.ca/news_releases_2009-2013/2011ENV0010-000173.htm

* OLD 2007 RESOURCE: 8 billion pounds of copper, 8.1 million ounces of gold, 69.7 million ounces of silver, 583 million pounds of molybdenum

* 160$ a share of InSitu value (2007 data)
http://www.goldminerpulse.com/c/cuu.php

* Environmental : Preparation of the Environmental Impact Statement/Application for an environmental assessment certificate for the Schaft Creek project can now proceed and is currently expected to be filed during the second quarter of 2011.

* Shaft Creek has an estimate of 3.6% to 5.1% of the total waste rock mined could potentially be net acid generating, a very low percentage compared to other porphyry copper deposits.

* The watershed areas around the Schaft Creek deposit are non fish bearing.

* Application Information Requirements (AIR) for the proposed Schaft Mine has been approved.

WHAT IS COMING:

* FEDRAL APPROVAL FOR NTL (National news waves)

* PDAC March 5-6 (next weekend, they will come in with new model)

* Institutional buying will start (Management was meeting over 30 big players last week, all want in)

* NEW RESOURCE ESTIMATE: All deliverables required to complete the updated resource estimate have been delivered to AMEC. The resource estimate is expected to be completed by the end of March 2011.

Will include:
* all data 2007-2011
* New high grade pit, drilling results
* Re-sampling data
* New geological model (Schaft Creek extensions and new depth) will upgrade the Inferred resource

* BIG RED BLOB drilling: The Core of Schaft Creek, the heart... they will drill it like swiss cheese...
http://www.copperfoxmetals.com/i/maps/Figure-1-Interpreted-X_Sect_6360900mN.jpg

* The objective of the proposed 2011 drilling program is to continue testing the strike extent and most importantly the interval between 500m and 800m below surface in the zone of higher-grade mineralization. The block model generated by the updated resource estimate and the chargeability anomaly will be used to locate the collars of the 2011 drill holes. An 8,000m drill program is planned and is expected to commence in mid May 2011.

* AERIAL SURVEY : Schaft Creek has only works on 2% of the deposit...
http://www.copperfoxmetals.com/s/Image.asp?i=maps/3D-GEOPHYSICAL-MODEL.jpg&id=428531
''Less than 1,500 acres of the 50,000 acre Schaft Creek property has been explored using modern exploration techniques.''

The company plans to complete a high sensitivity airborne geophysical survey consisting of magnetic, electromagnetic and radiometrics over the entire Schaft Creek property covering approximately 51,000 acres

* Environmental certification : Environmental assessment certificate for the Schaft Creek project can now proceed and is currently expected to be filed during the second quarter of 2011

* FEASIBILITY scheduled to be done - Q2

* Teck BACK IN or BUYOUT or BOTH, OR 3rd PLAYER *** AT ANY TIME ***
mksk
(fin. adv.)
27. februar 2011. u 19.00
bravo karabaya, zasluzujes onda sve te $ $$$ $$$ :)

ko ima vise, ti ili Vette?:)
karabaya
(zabusavam)
27. februar 2011. u 20.28
Na zalost on mada kad sam ja poceo kupovati on nije ni čuo za CUU.
SME
(vernik)
28. februar 2011. u 09.55
Evo dok posmatram desavanja na berzi... 9:45 AM
Karabaya, i ja sam razmišljao o RB tj. RY je simbol ali jako blizu su I Manulife MFC, dobri su mi jer imaju konstantno veliki volume a i dividende su OK.
Postavio si dosta dokumenata, svak cast, to stavrno pomaze jer u ovakvim situacijam je dobro da imaš sa kim da se posavetujes jer emocije nas ponekad ponesu u pogresnu starnu a ja sam sklon tome.

Za -ProTrade,
Možda ti izgleda malo cudno sto već pricamo o kesiranju ali ja imam jedan racun (od ukupno 6) koji sam namenio za otplatu kredita za skolovanje dece, registrovan kao RESP, zahvaljujuci Karabayi ovaj racun je dostigao visinu kredita i razmišljam da ga kesiram, to je sve.
karabaya
(zabusavam)
28. februar 2011. u 11.56
Napravio si par velikih gresaka:

1. Trebao si djecu praviti ranije pa bi već zavrsili skolu. Ugledaj se na mene.
2. Kesirati CCU sad je malo bez veze, za par mjeseci ćeš im moći kupiti skolu (zgradu mislim).

Na pozitivnoj strani u pravu si za insurance kompanije, oni su veci lopovi i od samih banaka mada ranjiviji u cupavim vremenima.

I još jednom, ne zuri sa prodajom CUU ja najozbiljnije racunam da će se rast nastaviti pogotovo sad tokom marta jer krajem mjeseca izlazi novi resource estimate (yebemliga ne znam na nasem kako se to kaže) a to će tek biti bomba. Biće ukljuceni rezultati svih busenja od 2007 do danas, a znaš i sam koliko je otkriveno u ovih 4 godine.
goldmz23
01. mart 2011. u 06.28
poslje svega moram, da kažem, da nažalost nisam kupio CUU u onom trenutku mi je bilo malo preriskantno ali karabya svaka čast na svemu!

Čestitam Vama svima koji ste imali priliku profitirati od ove diskusije, a ja ču da hvatam neku drugu priliku.

Pratim Vas i lepi pozdrav svima :)
karabaya
(zabusavam)
01. mart 2011. u 08.28
Pozdrav!

Da si kupio ocigledno se ne bi pokajao, ja sam to znao ali razumijes da nisam mogao da ti to kažem. Velika je odgovornost i ne bih volio da neko izgubi novac zbog mog lošeg savjeta.

Ja samo šta mogu da uradim je da skrenem paznju na neki stock i da dam malo podataka a ko se zainteresuje neka uradi domaći i sam odluci.

Eto recimo m.k.s.k. dobro radi domaće zadatke i zato je vodim na Fiji. Za Smederevca manje vise... :)))))

Svako dobro.

mksk
(fin. adv.)
01. mart 2011. u 09.48
karabaya, CLQ otisla u ...da nije bio isti tim i za CUU?? ne mogu da tražim ruke mi se tresu:) prodala sam to što sam ostavila(CLQ) u minus $3400..sad mogu i da dokupim još nestp CUU..
aquariusnorth
(sisac golubova)
02. mart 2011. u 12.53
karabaya...šta mislis o Slam Exploration Ltd ako si je pratio
karabaya
(zabusavam)
02. mart 2011. u 13.22
CLQ???
Prvo šta mi je palo na pamet kad sam otvorio je split stock :)))
Izgleda da im resource estimate nije uradjen kako treba pa će ponovo da rade i umanje brojeve. Ne mogu da vjerujem da je ovo novi BRE-X.

Još jedan primjer kako ne treba samo gledati atraktivnost i trenutnu kurentnost proizvoda nego treba procesljati i management. CUU ima sreću da su mu na celu Elmer Stewart, Morris McDonald i Guillermo Salazar, ekipa koja ima iskustvo i zna kako posao privesti kraju. Ne boj se za nas, mi smo u dobrim rukama, a oni sami imaju preko 60% dionica.

Kad samo pomislim da sam razmišljao o CLQ...

-----
Na zalost ne znam puno o Slam Exploration, nisu mi na listi kompanija koje pratim. Da li ih preporucujes?
mksk
(fin. adv.)
02. mart 2011. u 14.43
aha, bas super split:) ništa, 2011-Tax loss..bio mi je prvi loss do sada(a nadam se i zadnji:)..i bas sam bila ljuta
pa dobro i da sam prodala,(nisam ni imala puno, veci dio sam prodala sredinom januarai ostavila malo just in case:) high of the day .96! vidi danas .74 -masakr..moj loss od $ 3000 je ništa..zao mi je ljudi su ulozili sve da bi izgubili sve. Lesson learned!

karabaya
(zabusavam)
03. mart 2011. u 03.36
Nešto racunam ako je ipak u pitanju samo estimate correction a globalna slika je ostala manje-vise ista, mogla bi ovo biti dobra prilika za kupovinu posto je stock oversold.

Naravno ne preporucujem, samo glasno razmišljam...
aquariusnorth
(sisac golubova)
03. mart 2011. u 12.45
tek sam poceo da pratim te mining comp.pa vidim da su fondovi preporucili tu kompaniju,kao da će je kupovati
mksk
(fin. adv.)
03. mart 2011. u 13.47
ja razmišljam da opet kupim..sad je .94
videcu sutra kako je..sad se kajme shto sam prodala
karabaya
(zabusavam)
03. mart 2011. u 14.31
Aquarius, da li mislis na CUU ili CLQ?

mksk hrabro od tebe, svaka cast :)))
Ajde malo se raspitaj za BXX, nas Elmer Stewart je CEO i traže zlato u Nevadi...
mksk
(fin. adv.)
03. mart 2011. u 14.40
heh, cisto sumnjam da Aquarius misli na CLQ:)

ne znam samo dali da kupim OPL.VN, na brzaka cisto da vratim one 3000 a?:)

aquariusnorth
(sisac golubova)
03. mart 2011. u 18.13
mislio sam na slam exploration ,MIRAMICHI, NB, Feb. 23 /CNW/ - SLAM Exploration Ltd. (TSX-V:SXL) („SLAM”) reports that MineralFields Pathway Multi Series Fund includes SLAM Exploration in its top 10 holdings
mksk
(fin. adv.)
10. mart 2011. u 09.44
znala sam da će da ide malo dole ali nisam ocekivala 1.30

karabaya, no dumping pls:)
karabaya
(zabusavam)
10. mart 2011. u 10.10
Vidi moj komentar gore.

No dumping, long and strong! :)
mksk
(fin. adv.)
10. mart 2011. u 10.41
uhh, 1.26 ne mogu da gledam..
samo da nije ko „CLQ split”?:)
karabaya
(zabusavam)
11. mart 2011. u 06.00
Oporavili smo se, eto jel' ti sad lakse?
Zamisli samo kako se sad osjecaju oni sto su u panici prodali za 1.25.

Eh da sam juče imao kesa...
mksk
(fin. adv.)
11. mart 2011. u 07.40
ma ja sam malo kupila sa 1.31 i onda 1.26...i mislim evo dolazi 1.20 pa da dokupim i fully loaded..ALI..:))
ajde možda danas(haos svuda)
karabaya
(zabusavam)
11. mart 2011. u 08.42
Haos u Saudijskoj Arabiji, haos u Japanu a Gadafi odbija guzicu pobunjenicima... ne vjerujem da će se danas bilo ko omrsiti pa ni mi. Ali dnevne oscilacije ne treba da nas brinu, mi znamo šta imamo i šta dolazi, a dolazi samo dobro. Zao mi sto nemam vise kesa.

Nije da mi je drago ali moram primjetiti da će Japanu trebati dosta bakra da popravi unistenu infrastrukturu.
orisni
(diskutant)
11. mart 2011. u 15.12
> Zao mi sto nemam vise kesa.
Uzmi kredit, pa investiraj na „leverage” kad znaš „sigurno” gde će biti cena. ;) Salim se, naravno, ne preporucujem „leverage” (skoro) nikome.
karabaya
(zabusavam)
17. mart 2011. u 09.19
Gdje smo, šta smo i kuda idemo...
Ovo je uratko sumirano stanje CUU ovih dana a objavljeno na jednom forumu. Malo vise za citanje ali vrijedi da se prouci.

--------------------------------------------------------------
2007 Resource Estimate:
The Resource: 2007 NUMBERS:
- 8 billion pounds of copper,
- 8.1 million ounces of gold,
- 69.7 million ounces of silver,
- 583 million pounds of molybdenum

In Situ Metal Value per Share (MVpSh) US$159.51
Gold Equivalent Ounces Estimate 41.60 M oz
http://www.goldminerpulse.com/c/cuu.php

This was only based on 200m drilling
''The depth of the pre-2010 drilling at Schaft Creek averaged 226m, a very shallow depth in terms of porphyry deposits''

The higher grades are at depth and CUU has shown that it is still open beyond 800m.
''The work completed in 2010 clearly shows a large zone of higher grade mineralization at depth which could have significant depth extent, possibly in excess of 800m at the north end of the Schaft Creek deposit.''

ACRES
The 2007 drilling was only done on 1500 Acres of 51 000 = 2.9% of SCHAFT CREEK

''Less than 1,500 acres of the 50,000 acre Schaft Creek property has been explored using modern exploration techniques.''

CUU plans in the next month to scan the whole 51000 acres
The company plans to complete a high sensitivity airborne geophysical survey consisting of magnetic, electromagnetic and radiometrics over the entire Schaft Creek property covering approximately 51,000 acres

Still part of this 1500 acres CUU has dicovered 2 cores, 1 north and 1 East:

Core 1
http://www.copperfoxmetals.com/s/Image.asp?i=maps/Figure-1-Interpreted-X_Sect_6360900mN.jpg&id=444009

Core 2 (p.14) of presentation
http://www.copperfoxmetals.com/i/pdf/CUU-Presentation.pdf
Given the geology, the 2 blobs are floaters. At 250 meters they are what I consider big for Canada. CUU would be close to the center of the pipe but not necessarily the true center. The Titan indicates the pipe is even larger than I thought. It may extend from RG past CUU and all form the same system!

As you can see on p.14 they plan to drill that whole area while they complete Full Feasibility:

''The objective of the proposed 2011 drilling program is to continue testing the strike extent and most importantly the interval between 500m and 800m below surface in the zone of higher-grade mineralization. The block model generated by the updated resource estimate and the chargeability anomaly will be used to locate the collars of the 2011 drill holes. An 8,000m drill program is planned and is expected to commence in mid May 2011.''

''additional drill testing of the deep zone of higher grade mineralization is being considered and if successful, is expected to add considerable value to the Schaft Creek mineral property.''

Now read what CUU has been saying in recent NR's:
The average grade of the deeper parts of the 2010 drill holes that extended the mineralization to the east toward Mount LaCasse and at depth into a previously untested area

Mineralization is open to the north, at depth, and to the east under Mount La Casse.

The portion of the anomaly that has not been drilled suggests considerable potential to expand the size and average grade of the Schaft Creek deposit is encouraging and suggests that the majority of the Schaft Creek deposit occurs to the east under Mount LaCasse.„

The 2010 geophysical program and the pre 2010 drilling results strongly suggest this zone occurs on the flank of the deposit and the former Paramount Zone, at the north end of the deposit is the core of the porphyry system, where deep and higher grade mineralization would be expected to occur.

the Induced Polarization/Resistivity (chargeability) anomaly outlined by the geophysical surveys completed in 2010 strongly suggest that the Schaft Creek mineral deposit extends a significant distance to the north, the east and at depth beyond the limits of the diamond drilling

HE NEW RESOURCE ESTIMATE

* It's coming this month
''All deliverables required to complete the updated resource estimate have been delivered to AMEC. The resource estimate is expected to be completed by the end of March 2011.''

The New resource...
- Will include all drilling 2007-2011
- Will include re-sampling data (2 decades of cores resampled for gold, silver, moly and copper)
- Will include High grade starter pit
- Updated Indicated , Inferred and referred, based on new bloc model, and extentions of Schaft Creek (NORTN - SOUTH, AT DEPTH)

ADDED SILVER:
Here's another peice of info nobody knows about,: I was told by management recently that back in 2007 and earlier, silver at 6 dollars was considered as a by product, and most was not included in the 2007 resource. The initial estimation was 46 million ounces.

Now the drilling points to higher grades. At 35$ it's a huge difference. All the silver not included in the past will be included in the next resource estimate...it's a parrallel to the re-sampling program...

It always was copper gold and moly...silver followed.

Note: One of the key components of a feasibility study is the average grade of the metals contained in the resource estimate. Small increases in metal content in large porphyry deposits such as Schaft Creek can have a significant impact on the Net Present Value of the deposit. With the strong possibility of including higher grade mineralization into the resource estimate, completion of the resource estimate was deferred to include the assay results from the 2010 diamond drilling and core re-sampling program. These assays have been received and are undergoing QA/QC testing prior to delivery to AMEC Americas Limited (AMEC).

SIZE of Schaft Creek considered as Strategic Asset to Canada
''The key to this project has always been the huge numbers involved— huge in terms of deposit size.''

''The sheer size of Schaft Creek is the factor behind another point made by some analysts in Canada.
In short, they believe its size makes it an irresistible, strategic asset that China or some other Asian economy must secure. Thus, they expect that, if Teck backs out of the project, we will see a sovereign wealth fund or some other national entity step in to fund its development.

It will all be very interesting to watch develop. But one thing is certain: Schaft Creek is, along
with the Pebble deposit of Northern Dynasty (NDM.TO) and Galore Creek of NovaGold,
among the select few projects of such size that they can seriously be considered as strategic assets.
And if you believe in theinevitability of a long-term strainon commodity prices as thedeveloped world grows, you cannotescape the fact that these projectswill go forward.And if they do, you’ll want to own them at these early-stage price levels.''

Quotes from management: WHEN NOBODY WAS LISTENING

'' Copper fox is confident that the Schaft Creek story is only beginning to build..

'' we were surprised to learn that Copper Fox has made new discoveries to complement the existing resource. ''

”There is absolutely no doubt that the Schaft Creek deposit is world class,„

'' Schaft Creek is a world-class deposit and has the potential to be a lot larger than it is. It keeps indicating that there’s a lot more to be found.”

''Copper fox is confident that the Schaft Creek story is only beginning to build''

'' the deposit is substantially larger than what has been defined to date. ''
karabaya
(zabusavam)
17. mart 2011. u 09.20
FULL Feasibility
A considerable number of the studies required for the feasibility study were completed during the quarter. The feasibility study is expected to be completed by the end of June 2011.

Copper Fox identified four aspects of the preliminary feasibility study that would have a direct impact on improving the economics of the Schaft Creek deposit. These are:

i) higher-grade„ starter
ii) increased daily milling rate (The daily miling rate has been increased from 100 000 tonnes per day over 20 years to 150 000 over 15 years)
iii) reduced capital costs
iv) a realistic resource estimate geared toward maximizing the economic return/benefits of the Schaft Creek deposit over the life of mine.

Note: The North west transmission line will also lower Capex

NEGATIVE COST COPPER PRUDUCTION using 2007 resource, cost and metal prices:

In 2007 NPV was producing copper at NEGATOVE -0.32$ Using: gold 692$ silver 13.09$ : and it's only going lower...

* Add the Rhenium as by product (3 billion)
* Adjust the New cost
* Adjust the New metal prices
* New resource

TECK BACK IN OPTION
After Fesibility the ticker starts ticking :
On receipt of a Positive Bankable Feasibility Study, a defined term in the Option Agreement, Teck has 120 days to exercise its earn-back option pursuant to the Option Agreement, then Teck has the right to elect to acquire either a 20%, a 40% or a 75% working interest in the Schaft Creek .

but many already think a move will be made by Teck before Feasibility comes out :
''Teck may at any time elect to exercise the earn-back terms and conditions of the Option Agreement. ''

Funding and Expenditures:

* All our dilution in spending on Scaft Creek is added value to teh resource and money in the bank 100% to 400%

'' by solely funding subsequent expenditures equal to either 100%, 300% or 400% of Copper Fox's prior expenditures pursuant to the Option Agreement.

HUGE VALUE NOT RECOGNIZED BY MARKET IS THE FINANCING CLAUSE:
In the event Teck elects to earn-back a 75% working interest in the Schaft Creek Project, Teck will be responsible for arranging Copper Fox's share of project financing and will recover the project financing funds from Copper Fox's share of metal sales until payout is reached.

NOTE:
* Strong chance of BUYOUT before or upon Feasibility
* Worst case scenarion Teck backs in 75% = Our share price 5$
* Best case is Teck backs in 40% or 20% = Our share price 20$ and up

Many analyst agree, if Teck does not back in someone will step up:

Roulston:
Copper Fox is targeting year end to complete the feasibility study. That would trigger the 120 day period for Teck to exercise its back-in. If the major does elect to earn back into the project, it would be an endorsement of the merits of the project and would relieve the junior of funding obligations.

If Teck does not back-in, then Copper Fox would retain its interest (and would also
get Teck’s portion of the royalty interest). With a controlling interest in such an attractive project, Copper Fox would have little difficulty in attracting another partner. More likely, the junior would be taken over by another mining company.

Jay Taylor:
''The sheer size of Schaft Creek is the factor behind another point made by some analysts in Canada. In short, they believe its size makes it an irresistible, strategic asset that China or some other Asian economy must secure. Thus, they expect that, if Teck backs out of the project, we will see a sovereign wealth fund or some other national entity step in to fund its development.

Seeking Alpha
As we pointed out in our initial article on Copper Fox Metals (CPFXF.PK) in August, Teck Cominco, one of the largest mining companies in the world, is a partner with Copper Fox on the Schaft Creek project, a neighbor to NovaGold's Galore Creek project. Today’s news of Teck Cominco partnering with NovaGold on Galore Creek is great news for Copper Fox.
We believe Teck Cominco partnering with NovaGold on Galore Creek means they really like the area and are likely to buy out Copper Fox upon completion of the feasibility study, or at least exercise their option to buy out 75% of Schaft Creek by paying Copper Fox 4 times all prior expenditures and arranging production financing.

Teck being involved in both projects also means that Schaft Creek should have an easier time piggybacking on the Galore Creek infrastructure (power, roads, etc.) to go to production, greatly reducing costs.
As this Metals Place article from earlier this year pointed out, Schaft Creek is arguably a better project than Galore Creek for a variety of reasons:
Another Galore Creek neighbor is the Schaft Creek project being developed by Copper Fox [CVE:CUU]. Schaft Creek is only 36km from Galore Creek, but it is on the BC side of the mountains, thus no tunnel or Alaskan environmentalists. The deposit is every bit as big as GC and they have a top notch CEO. The life of mine strip ratio is a much cleaner 0.7:1. The gold grades are higher and it also has molybdenum. The 2004 capital costs were $600MM. While the cost is sure to increase it will still be much less than GC. Copper Fox optioned the property from Teck Cominco in 2002, but Teck retained a back in right for up to 75%. Teck would have to contribute 4 times all prior expenditures and arrange financing after CUU delivers the feasibility study. A preliminary feasibility study and an updated resource estimate were ordered last month. At $2 copper and $500 gold the NPV is $1.2B discounted at 8%. So CUU has arguably a better project and a strong partner already in place. They will undoubtedly have to dilute shareholders to complete the FS, but then they get four times their expenditures to help pay for their 25% of capital costs. The entire market cap of Copper Fox is currently about $40MM. Twenty five percent of Galore Creek would run about $600MM.

Environment
CUU has ZERO environmental issues.
1) Very long going positive relatioship they have the Tahltan Nation.

2) Shaft Creek has an estimate of 3.6% to 5.1% of the total waste rock mined could potentially be net acid generating, a very low percentage compared to other porphyry copper deposits.

Mr. Elmer B. Stewart, MSc. P. Geol, President and Chief Executive Officer stated ”We are extremely pleased with the results received from the preparation of the Feasibility Study. The confirmation that a very low net acid generating potential exists from the waste rock mined is extremely good news from an environmental point of view.

Environmental Studies Update:
Copper Fox has been collecting environmental baseline information on the Schaft Creek area since mid 2005. As part of the ongoing environmental baseline studies, Copper Fox has completed 634 Acid/Base Accounting Samples and numerous Humidity Cell Tests whereby Copper Fox's consultant, Dr Kevin Morin, has concluded that approximately 3.6 to 5.1% of the total rock mined from the Schaft Creek deposit could potentially be net acid generating which is low compared to other porphyry copper deposits.

Environmental Assessment Certificate:
Copper Fox has received a Section 11 Order from the Government of British Columbia setting out the parameters of the public consultation process related to the application by Copper Fox for an Environmental Assessment Certificate. This is an important, major step forward and allows Copper Fox to commence the public consultation process as part of its ongoing environmental and the socio-economic impact studies related to development of the Schaft Creek deposit.

http://www.copperfoxmetals.com/s/NewsReleases.asp?ReportID=442282&_Type=News-Releases&_Title=Milestone-In-E... tal-Assessment-Of-Schaft-Creek-Achieved

February 14, 2011
Milestone In Environmental Assessment Of Schaft Creek Achieved

Vancouver, British Columbia -- February 14, 2011 -- Copper Fox Metals Inc. („Copper For” or „the Company”) (TSX-Venture: CUU) is very pleased to announce that it has received confirmation from the BC Environmental Assessment Office and the Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency that its Application Information Requirements (AIR) for the proposed Schaft Mine has been approved.

3) The watershed areas around the Schaft Creek deposit are non fish bearing

Mr. Stewart, President of Copper Fox stated that „I am pleased that the fish habitat portion of the environmental studies on the Schaft Creek deposit concluded that no fish species have been found from 1 to 6 kilometer radius of the deposit. The lack of fish habitat and low acid generating potential of the waste rock to be mined are very positive environmental features of the Schaft Creek deposit.

Environmental Assessment Update:
Copper Fox is working with the Tahltan Heritage Resources Environmental Assessment Team and provincial and federal regulators to submit an Environmental Assessment (EA) Application for the Schaft Creek deposit in the fourth quarter of 2010. One aspect of the EA Application will require authorizations under the Canadian Fisheries Act. The exhaustive studies completed by Copper Fox show that the tailings storage facility, the open pit and the waste rock storage areas, all three of which are major components of the feasibility study and the proposed mine site are not located within fish bearing waters. Naturally occurring barriers prevent fish from accessing to within 1, 2.5 and 6 kilometers of the tailings storage facility, waste rock storage area and open pit.

CUU does not even require teh Fisheries Act !
Due to the absence of fish, approval under the British Columbia Environmental Assessment Act, the Canadian Environmental Assessment Act and the Canadian Fisheries Act will not be contingent upon the reclassification of fish habitat as mine waste disposal facilities. Copper Fox expects that due to the absence of fish in the area around the proposed mine site, a Schedule 2 Amendment under the Fisheries Act would not be required.

Copper Fox has selected the tailings and waste rock storage areas based on consultation with the regulatory agencies with the goal of minimizing impacts on the environment and is working with provincial, federal and Tahltan Heritage Resources Environmental Assessment Team representatives to develop the Schaft Creek Project in an environmentally responsible manner.

INSIDER BUYING
* Insider of CUU own now with the pp's over 65% of all the shares and are still buying at the highs (1.76$, 1.73$, 1.67$, 1.53$)
* Any selling is exercising of options to purchase even more shares
* Buying all of 2010 evey month almost evey day and most of 2011
mksk
(fin. adv.)
18. mart 2011. u 10.32
karabaya, kolko si CUU prodao?? juče EFR je bio halted, sto mislis vredi li da se kupi..ja ću da probam negde za 2 nedelje pa videcemo:)ja sam juče još i kupila nešto CUU po 1.63..uhh, nadam se da neću zazaliti..sve mi izgleda OK..ali posle CLQ u never know :))
karabaya
(zabusavam)
18. mart 2011. u 14.17
Pa neću da prođem sad dvije nedelje prije resource estimate; vidis i sama da se svi ugradjuju prije objave.
Prodacu možda 3 - 4 hiljade, ne vise, ali ne prije prve nedelje u aprilu.
Ne znam za halt, nisam pratio... pogledacu veceras kad dodjem kuci da vidim šta se desava.
Vidim da se UUU malo oporavlja ali ne vjerujem da će se uranijumski stokovi oporaviti bas za par dana i racunam na to.

Dobro si uradila sto si dokupila CUU, moglo bi se lako desiti da nakon objave CUU postane 3$ stock... insajderi kupuju kao mutavi i ne pitaju za cijenu.
karabaya
(zabusavam)
21. mart 2011. u 16.37
Jutros po otvaranju smo napravili touchdown -> $2.00, a zatvorili na $1.98. Sutra ocekujem nove dobre vijesti a moguć je i halt.

:)
PortoTRADE
22. mart 2011. u 14.38


...karabaya, imaš nešto za kontakt, skype, mail,...?
PortoTRADE
22. mart 2011. u 14.57
SME
(vernik)
23. mart 2011. u 10.08
Dali ima kakvih vesti u vezi objavljivanja podataka sa analize, uplatio sam još 10,000 ali mi treba par dana da pare „legnu” na racun. Nadam se da neće biti do petka da ne promasim voz.
karabaya
(zabusavam)
23. mart 2011. u 12.34
Old core sampling neće objavljivati posebno kao sto sam ocekivao ali će rezultati biti ukljuceni u sad ovaj resource estimate koji ocekujem svaki dan. Valjda bi trebali da objave to do petka, obecali su za kraj marta.

Mislim da sada neće uzeti u obzir renijum, ali će ga obavezno ukljuciti u konacnu FS za kraj juna. Ako ga ipak ukljuce sad biće veselo, kilo renijuma je 5.000$.

Evo probili smo 2$ maloprije i gledam kako se pokusava oboriti cijena ali nema ništa na prodaju... ljudi drže i ne pustaju, svi su sad u ocekivanju vijesti pa će cijena do kraja dana samo rasti.
Bar se nadam. U svakom slučaju imali smo spektakularnih zadnjih 10 dana and the best is yet to come :)

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