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vudu-lenjin
2011-03-04 06:13 AM

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/03/04/3155848.htm

________Aussie houses are world's most overpriced

By Lexi Metherell and staff
Updated 21 minutes ago

The Economist says Australian housing is overpriced by 56 per cent
(ABC News: Giulio Saggin)

Australian homes remain the most overvalued in the world, giving fresh life to the debate over whether the nation's housing market is a bubble.

The economic journal of the record, The Economist, says Australian housing is overpriced by 56 per cent.

Morgan Stanley global strategist Gerard Minack has been arguing the case for some time and thinks a bubble started to inflate in the late 1990s.

„We've had 20 years where the Australian consumers have been willing to borrow more to buy an asset that they believe always goes up in value - the classic sign of an asset bubble,” he said.

„You buy it because it's going up and you don't take account of the underlying fundamentals such as the rental return or the price relative to average income.”

On the other side of the fence is Christopher Joye, property market analyst and managing director of research group Rismark International.

He says the surge in house prices since the late 1990s can be explained by soaring disposable income.

„Australian households' disposable incomes have consistently outgrown Australian house prices over the past seven to eight years,” he said.

„The housing market is not overvalued by 50 per cent; the house price-to-income ratio is in line with its average over the past decade.”

The Economist certainly thinks the Australian property market is the worst in the world, with Australia followed closely by Hong Kong and France.

But even Mr Minack says 56 per cent may be pushing it.

„Roughly I'd think home prices are 30 to 40 per cent above their value. Fifty-six [per cent] seems a little stretch, but 30 to 40 is still well above what you'd think is sustainable over the medium term,” he said.

Mr Joye questions The Economist's methodology of comparing house prices to rents.

„The Economist has been relentlessly wrong in all of its predictions over the past 10 years in relation to the Australian housing market,” he said.

The Economist says Australian house prices have risen 215 per cent since 1997, which compares to 95 per cent in the US.

Ms Minack says it would take a serious economic shock to send house prices sharply lower, in particular job losses.

„The fact we have very expensive property makes Australia very vulnerable to any sort of economic shock,” he said.

„The example I'm pointing to at the moment is what's happening in the Gold Coast in Queensland, where tourism numbers are down.

”It's not macro-economically significant for the entire country, but what we're seeing is quite acute distress in their property market, because without the constant income growth they can't sustain prices where they are.„

Mr Joye thinks disposable income will continue to outpace property prices.

”We're not projecting substantial capital growth in 2011, so we believe that over the next year to 18 months household incomes will continue to outpace house prices, thereby improving the valuation of the underlying housing market,„ he said.”
CikaBrkica003
(Student)
2011-03-04 07:26 PM
To znaju svi property investors i real estate agenti tako da je ništa novo. Znaš li kada će da spuste cenu kuca „zemlje” nikad ali ne reci nikad jer nikad se nezna. Oni će da spuste cenu kada u Australiji bude nezaposlenost od 10% do 20% i kada na trzistu nema „Arapa i Azijata” tako da bi izvukli malo $$$$ sto je ostalo na trzistu. Sve dok ima Arapa i Azijata koji kupuju kuce „zemlje” kao od kolaca jer imaju $$$$ a odakle im $$$ to ja ne znam. Tako da mozete da zaboravite na spustanje cena, jer državi i bankama im odgovara na duge staze. Tako da ova i sledeća generacija naših i tudje dece će da žive sa nama „roditelji” ili pod kirijom jer jednostavno ne mogu da kupe stan ili kucu. To me poseca na Svedski sistem jer i tamo ne možeš da kupis stan ili kucu bez $$$ i dozvole od države.

Pozdrav
aleksa1234
(net admin)
2011-03-05 11:57 AM
E, je l' suces brkove nagore il' nadole?
bombus_terestris
(prosvetni radnik)
2011-03-05 02:55 PM
cena zemlje u australiji se održava zbog kineza najviše a i zbog arapa.
Koliko su farmi kupili kinezi u zadnjih nekoliko godina? Mnogo. A zašto?
pa zato jer je australija gurnuta pod kinesku interesnu zonu.Oni koji drže cenu kucu dole pruzaju zilavi otpor kineskoj okupaciji, ali to će biti isto kao i sa shiptarima na kosovu. Kinezi kupuju , za velike pare,
dok ne zavlada kineski standard. E onda će kuce biti kao i u kini, s tim sto će vise od 60 posto stanovnistva biti kineza.

odakle im pare. Pa oni imaju vise dolara nego amerikanci.
Koliko studenata godisnje dolazi u au iz kine. Mnogo. Ko je to dozvolio?
Pa oni koji vladaju sa svetom. Australija izvozi hranu , meso , najviše u kinu, japan a ovi moraju da primaju studente, i ostale emigrante.
Da bi standard pao.
Taj otpor može da potraje deset-petnaest godina. Ko proda kucu proda, ko ne , puknuce lovu.
Arapi i Kinezi žive u porodicama od po 20 i kad se kuva na kazanu jeftinije, i onda pomazu jedni druge. U jednoj kuci i baba i deda i unuci i roditelji i sinovi i cerke.I onda kupe jednu kucu , pa drugu.
A Kinezi vredan narod i pametan
Arapi opet zaradjuju preko centralinka, svi imaju po dece deset, možda devet. Vera ima daje po par žena, i šta tu ima da se prica.
Svi vidimo u kom pravcu ide demografska slika australije.
Za zadnjih 15 godina koliko je doslo mungosa i zutih? Koliko evropljana? Šta će biti za narednih 15?
Još ima nade deset godina, posle ako ne bude nekog svetskog sranja, da globalna kriza prođe, da se malo rascisti ko kome duguje, cene kuca će biti trecina od sadasnje.
Sto banke ne daju kredite?
jer kinezi imaju gotov novac.
Kinezi placaju u gotovom novcu studiranje 30 000 dolara godisnje plus troskove zivota. Biznis. Australija se prodaje tako. Godinama vezana za americki sistem koji je u kolapsu već 3 godina. Sad rat na bliskom istoku, severu afrike i ete još pola miliona arapa za godinu dana. Gde će te izbeglice? Pa u australiju zna se.
vudu-lenjin
2011-03-05 09:31 PM
Bombus, svetski plan je zacrtao da Australija ima min. 40 mil. stanovnika pre 2050. To se uklapa u to što pricas. Opet, ko može da ljudima da zabrani da dodju ovde, pa i mi smo dosli zar ne? Ovaj kontinent zaista nema geografski nikakve veze sa Evropom, ovo je azijska interesna zona, i tako će i biti, a beli narodi više ne prave dovoljno dece da opstanu ni u svojim zemljama.
bananas
(ironwoman)
2011-03-08 06:56 AM
Ja sam to odavno tvrdila i nisam jedina. Prema tome, otkrili su rupu
u saksiji.
bombus_terestris
(prosvetni radnik)
2011-03-08 11:32 AM
Dobro dosla u klub.
kako da ti urucimo zahvalnicu, daj neki mail ili nešto...
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