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Koliko je brz Windows 7
mostro
(junior member)
2009-11-12 04:18 PM
Iranac
2009-11-13 10:34 AM
Ништа бржи од XP.

Од свих мајкрософтових оперативних система, само су два већа ђубрета од седмице: Виндоус Ми и Виста. Међутим, Висту не можемо да рачунамо у нормалан ОС јер је то недовршена седмица. Све у свему само је Виндоус Ми веће ђубре.

Што се мене тиче, остајем на XP и гледам има ли нешто логичније и практичније да се нађе. Не знам како иде са еплом, на шта то личи. Можда купим и неку плочу најновију, за резерву, која подржава XP јер ће временом да нестану, као што је било тешко наћи лаптоп који подржава XP, а и сад није боље.

Купим делов лаптоп са вистоm, 1000 долара и више, погледam, Виста, драјвере не дају за XP, и вратим. Онај ми нуди 50 долара да га задржим. Реко да ми га поклониш не би га узео.

Мајкрософт прави шминкерај, али који компликуеј ствари. Чини ми се, нсиам сигуран, да основа XP-a лежи на НТ-у, али да су за НТ највише радили прави стручњаци. Изгледа само по послу радили, на уговор.
Iranac
2009-11-13 10:40 AM
Седмица је бржа од XP-а само кад се затвара. Ако то неком нешто значи.
MUSASHI66
2009-11-13 11:09 AM
Iranac, izgleda da si sad strucnjak i za kompjutere, pored emigracije. Konkretno, šta to toliko ne valja na Visti sad? Na pitam za prvu godinu kad je izasla i kad je bilo problema sa drajverima, nego za vistu koju si mogao kupiti pre recimo 6 meseci?
Iranac
2009-11-13 12:04 PM
Па да ваљало не би убрзо иѕбацио седмицу. Иди читај по интернету новине.

А седмица, ништа јој не фали осим што је ружно, ништа брже од XP-a, и закомпликована непотребним менијима и гомилом сетингса.
Iranac
2009-11-13 12:07 PM
Ставио ми ОВОЛИКО дебео титле бар, смањио ми монитор непотребно. Има у сетзингсу да смањиш? Па има. Онда сенка са словима на десктопу, непрегледно. Има у сетингсу. Онда старт мену, који НЕ мОЖЕ да има стари облик као у 95 или XP или Висти, него укуцавај да брзо нађеш.

А што је ружмо, то је већ друга прича. Као ноћ. Провидан таск бар, ко да седим у води. То оно што сам гледао пар дана након инсталације. Све у свему, чист кич.
Felix
(amater)
2009-11-14 03:56 AM
Nije mi jasno da neko može tako povrsno da osuđuje konja koga nije jahao...

Pozdrav
Iranac
2009-11-14 11:42 AM
Мени доста два дана да видим нашминкан XP, који је уз то и ружан и непрактичан.
Iranac
2009-11-14 11:51 AM
Феликс, си знао да НЕ МОЖЕШ да ставиш класични старт мени у седмици?
Укуцај на гуглу windows 7 and classic start menu и читај. Имаш од бесплатних програмчића до оних који се плаћају да то добијеш у седмици.

А замисао је да брзо дођеш укуцавањем. Па ја ако неке програме баш толико користим ја их ставим на десктоп или ставим на десктоп линк на на цели фолдер из старт менија.

А што је нашминкан, грозота. Још мало ће мек да буде лепши од виндоса.
Felix
(amater)
2009-11-15 05:43 AM
Procitaj malo šta si nasao za merilo da li je dobro ili ne. Jedan start meni. Ha ha, a pricas o celom operativnom sistemu.

Usput ja sam testirao Win 7 od beta verzije pa preko RC pa sada gotove verzije.

Pozdrav
Iranac
2009-11-15 10:50 AM
Ја ти лепо причам да нема никакву предност. Ниеј фора колико је лошији од XP, него колико је бољи. Читам ја, пише: Одличан, стабилан.
А то је карактериситика XP-а од почетка. Плус је ружан и компликован у односу на XP, самим тим непракттичан. Плус ниеј ништа бржи. Никаква предност у односу на XP, али има мане.

маса га узима због моде.
Iranac
2009-11-15 10:57 AM
Видећеш која ће мука бити да натерају народ да пређе са XP на седмицу. ОГРОМНА.

Седмица лежи на NT, кога правили прави струлњаци, мајкрософт само платио.
Iranac
2009-11-15 11:02 AM
Наравно да седмица не лежи на NT, него XP. И знаш зашто се зове седмица? 2000 је НТ5 , ХР шестица а ово седмица. Виста је вероватно 6.5. Толико о висти као правом ОС.
Iranac
2009-11-15 11:08 AM
When to move off XP, onto Windows 7

By Margie Semilof, Executive Editor
26 Mar 2009 | SearchEnterpriseDesktop.com

IT shops continue to hold off on Vista upgrades in favor of waiting for Windows 7, but individual corporate circumstances may require some action sooner rather than later.

Gartner Inc., the Stamford, Conn.-based consulting firm recently polled 166 of its US-based clients representing three million PCs, and just under 100 of its European-based clients representing just under one million PCs. Vista adoption continues its slow pace, with roughly half of respondents saying they will not upgrade or are making no plans either way.

In fact, by the end of 2008 only 6% of the organizations had started installing Vista. That's about half of the number of organizations that had installed Windows 2000 by the same time in its evolution, said Michael Silver, a Gartner analyst and one of the report's authors.

Only one-third of respondents said they would roll out Vista in 2009 in both North America and Europe.

Get thee off of XP

Skipping Vista does have its consequences. It means that IT shops with four or five-year hardware refresh cycles will have a truncated OS upgrade cycle as they move to Windows 7, Silver said.

Silver advises IT shops to at least move some end users off of XP. „We have a lot of clients that skip an OS and they call us up late in their OSes life,” he said. „They say, we can't get off of Windows 2000 fast enough. We don't have the budget and our applications don't support it anymore.”

XP will only be supported with security fixes until April 2014 and it's unlikely that most Windows 7 deployments will begin until 2011. A release candidate of Windows 7 is widely expected in September 2009, but it will take a while for third-party applications to support a new release, as is typical.

If IT shops start a Windows 7 deployment in early 2011 it means that, through regular attrition, it will be hard for them to get off XP before Microsoft ends support and the third-party vendors pulling back on their own XP support. Support for XP by third parties is expected to become a problem by 2012, Silver said.

When to upgrade to Windows 7

He recommends adding Windows 7 to the budget on new and existing PCs for 2011 and 2012.

For IT shops interested in running hosted virtual desktops, Silver said it's better to run Windows XP on the same hardware than running Windows Vista because XP is less resource intensive and requires less disk space. He added that the tools to manage hosted virtual machines are still in their infancy.

By the time Windows 7 becomes mainstream, virtual desktop infrastructure (VDI) and the management technology that supports VDI should be mature.
mostro
(junior member)
2009-11-15 11:42 AM
Tako su hvalili i Vistu kad se pojavila, a evo još uvek najviše ljudi koristi XP. Svaki novi OS trazi i jači hardver, a ni državne administracije koje žive od poreza ne menjaju hardver svake godine, te je to samo stvar prestiza i sujete pojedinaca. A da li će sistem biti brzi ili sporiji za koju sekundu, to za kucni PC nema ama bas nikakvog značaja.
MUSASHI66
2009-11-16 09:29 AM
TAko su kudiki i XP kad se pojavio, pa vidi ga sad, posle 8 godina, drzi „malkice” vise trzista nego OSX i Linux skupa.

Kako neko može da kudi sedmicu jer nema classic star menu mi je ludnica. Koga zaboli za classic menu? Nije bitan od 2002 godine, jer je XP start menu jedno 20 puta bolji, a novi search na Windows 7 je najbolji search koji sam ikada video na kompjuteru.

Nov novcat OS, a skoro sve radi, čak i ako nema bas pravih drajvera, ugradjuje se za pola sata, nije prevelik, a što se tiče brzine, iz mog licnog iskustva, kad se pojavi novi OS, nikad nije bas nešto brzi od starog - zašto, zato što je vecina programa mnogo veca i kompleksnija. Pogledaj kakav je IE bio kad se pojavio XP, pogledaj IE8 sad. Pogledaj WMP iz 2002, pogledaj WMP12. Ne znam ni ja što se raspravljam sa laikom...
Iranac
2009-11-16 11:12 AM
Кад се појави нешто ново, требало би и да више користи. Али дефинитивно осим шарениша од прозора седмица ама баш ништа вредније нема.

Још горе је било са вистом. ЧИСТ промашај. Сада је народ срећан што све ради како треба, други разлог нико нема.

Зато се и предвиђа да ће народ екстремно тешко, теже него икад да пређе са ХР-а на њу.

А ови што воле моду, то је већ друга ствар.
Iranac
2009-11-16 11:13 AM
Ако нисте прочитали, ено пише вам да ће тек кад престану да с ераде закрпе за ХР људи да пређу на седмицу. Једноставно МОРАЈУ, ниеј што хоће.
MUSASHI66
2009-11-16 11:54 AM
Sedmica nema ništa u odnosu na XP?

Search?
Novi DX? Da ne kenjam ja, imaš dovoljno informacija na netu, kao ovo ispod, samo sto ti kao korisnik ides na internet da kenjas po SC i to je to, pa ti i ne treba ništa vise. Znaš li ti uopste šta je NT, ili si samo procitao negde na netu? To sto ti radis sa kompjuterima, mogao si na Windows 95, i ne treba ti ništa novije.

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MUSASHI66
2009-11-16 11:54 AM
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System Restore. The Windows 7 version of System Restore works as before, providing a way to non-destructively return a PC to a previous point in time, but is more reliable, predictable, and effective than its predecessors.

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User Account Control. While much reviled by certain users, the User Account Control (UAC) feature that debuted in Windows Vista played a huge role in making that system the most secure Windows version yet. In Windows 7, UAC is extensively updated to be less annoying, and the overall system has been fine-tuned to minimize the number of UAC prompts that interrupt users.

View Available Networks. Windows 7 includes a new Jump List-based utility for finding and connecting to Wi-Fi, mobile broadband, dial-up, and VPN connections. Unlike the similar UI in Windows Vista, this utility, called View Available Networks, does not require you to navigate through a series of dialogs and windows.

Virtual Hard Disk support. Windows 7 allows you to mount a Virtual Hard Disk (VHD) as a drive in Explorer so that you can navigate its contents like a physical hard disk. It also supports the ability to boot from VHD images.

VPN Reconnect. Windows 7 users who still need to make traditional VPN connections will benefit from a new VPN Reconnect feature that automatically reestablishes a VPN connection when you temporarily loše Internet connectivity.

Windows Anytime Upgrade. This utility debuted in Windows Vista but was found to be too confusing for most users, so the electronic upgrade capability was removed. In Windows 7, Windows Anytime Upgrade returns to electronic upgrading and Microsoft promises you'll be able to upgrade from one version of Windows 7 to another in about 10 minutes now.

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Windows Easy Transfer. The Windows Easy Transfer utility that debuted in Windows Vista has been substantially updated with a new user interface and new capabilities. As before, Easy Transfer helps you transfer files, folders, and program and system settings from your previous Windows install to your new one. This time around, however, the process is simpler and more streamlined.

Windows Explorer. Microsoft has significantly updated Windows Explorer yet again in Windows 7, this time with a new toolbar, a resizable search box, and a new navigational pane.

Windows Gadgets. The Windows Sidebar disappears in Windows 7, but the Gadgets continue on and are integrated with the desktop.

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MUSASHI66
2009-11-16 11:55 AM
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Windows Media Player. Microsoft's media player received a major makeover in Windows 7 with several new features, including enhanced DVD playback, a new lightweight playback mode, dramatically improved format compatibility (including AAC and H.264), Windows Taskbar Jump List customization, PC-to-PC and media streaming, and a new Play To feature.

Windows PowerShell. Windows 7 ships with the Windows PowerShell 2.0 scripting environment and the Windows PowerShell Integrated Scripting Environment (ISE).

Windows Search. Windows 7 comes with the latest version of Windows Search, and unlike the version that first shipped with Windows Vista, you can now obtain instant search results from network-based file shares as well as local hard drives. Microsoft has also improved the performance of local searches, sorting, and grouping.

Windows Taskbar (Enhanced). The Windows Taskbar has been dramatically enhanced in Windows 7 to minimize clutter. New Taskbar features like Jump Lists, fly-over and full-screen icon previews, and more.

Windows Touch. Windows 7 builds on the Tablet PC and touch capabilities from previous Windows versions and adds pervasive support for multi-touch. All of the major UI components, including the Start Menu, Windows Taskbar, and Explorer, are touch-friendly in Windows 7.

Windows Troubleshooting. This new Windows 7 feature diagnoses and resolves common operating system and hardware issues. It works automatically, or you can visit the Troubleshooting control panel to find problems to troubleshoot. Windows Troubleshooting integrates with Action Center so you'll be notified when relevant new troubleshooters from Microsoft and third parties are made available.

Windows Update. Microsoft's utility for downloading and installing system updates has been enhanced in Windows 7 to take advantage of changes in the security model and to better expose optional and featured updates.

Wireless Device Network. Finally, Windows gains a way to use your wireless-equipped laptop as a wireless access point for other PCs when you're connected to a wired network.

WordPad. The simple word processor continues into Windows 7 with the new Scenic Ribbon UI and several editing improvements.

XPS Viewer. While Windows Vista users are forced to use Internet Explorer to view XML Paper Specification (XPS) documents--essentially Microsoft's PDF knock-off--Windows 7 gains a dedicated XPS Viewer application.
mostro
(junior member)
2009-11-16 01:20 PM


Зато се и предвиђа да ће народ екстремно тешко, теже него икад да пређе са ХР-а на њу.
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Iranac, delimicno si u pravu. Nije bas ekstremno teško, ali teško jeste zato što mora da se menja hardver, a masa ljudi će se zbog toga zadovoljiti sa XP još bar sledećih 5 godina.
Kad se pojavila Vista, hvaljena je kao neko cudo, ali je trebalo i masu softvera prilagoditi njoj i imala je vece zahteve za hardverom. E pa, ako je neko spreman da svake 2-3 godine baca PC i kupuje novi, neka mu je sa srećom. Meni lično je P-4 dovoljan za sada kao home PC, zadovoljava sve potrebe. Nisam ga stedeo ni kad je bio nov, pa dokle izdrzi. Da mi treba za pogon nekog mocnog softvera, verovatno bih ga zamenio, ali samo zbog Win-7 ne. Tako Microsoft može da nudi i komunikacije sa Marsom, ali kome je to neophodno ?

Temu sam postavio radi toga sto su mnogi ovde na forumu bili odusevljeni brzinom novog windowsa-7, ali ako nekog zanima brzina, neka proba na primer PCLinuxOS koji je brzi od XP-sp3 i kada se koristi sa diska (gde je dosta sporiji nego instaliran).

Toliko o donosenju zakljucaka na brzinu čim se nešto novo pojavi, a ne sporim da je win-7 doneo dodatne pogodnosti korisnicima.
Felix
(amater)
2009-11-17 02:08 AM
Ja sam probao i puuunoooo linuxa.
Koji će mi vrag jedan operativni sistem a ne mogu otici u banku i obaviti ozbiljan posao. Samo kao primer. Jedino je SuSE bio upotrebljiv i to ne potpuno. A Windows jeste i to još uvek.

Jedno se slazem sa novim Windowsom: Kaže jedan na poslu cekaj da izadje Service Pack 1 pa da instaliraj. To se do sada pokazalo efikasno. Bas se to desilo sa XP. Tek sa service pack 1 je proradio kako treba.

Napredok se ne postize sa starim stvarima.

Pozdrav
ali_deda_i_40_ajduka
(udaren u glavu)
2009-11-17 03:07 PM
Koliko je brz Windows 7

http://tinyurl.com/yz3skxu

Evo pogledaj video o novoj verziji Ubuntu-a:

http://tinyurl.com/ykbscr9

Mostro je krenuo da reklamira Ubuntu, dzaba brzi boot ili sarena laza Compiz kad posle osedis od muke. Linux pojedinacno ima dobrih rešenja ali kad se sve to utrpa u jednu distribuciju onda se tek vidi koliko kiksira na osnovnim stvarima. Grafika i zvuk neko napisa = protiv-prirodni blud, to sastaviti da radi kako valja SF. Slika govori vise nego hiljadu reci, moj skromni prilog XP vs Ubuntu 9.10

Ista masina dual boot

Desktop XP, sidebar i dok dzabaka
http://www.imagesforme.com/upload/3f964bb0.png
Google earth (openGL)
http://www.imagesforme.com/upload/77f2ecfb.png]
TV aplikacija za XP nema potrebe da kacim, takvi programi radili su još u win98 (TV, snimanje TV programa, teletext)

Desktop Ubuntu 9.10
http://www.imagesforme.com/upload/1e07ff60.png
Google earth (openGL)
http://www.imagesforme.com/upload/cc450b87.png

Multimedija Ubuntu 9.10, pokusaj gledanja TV, snimanje TV programa, teletext
http://www.imagesforme.com/upload/8e0d5738.png

http://www.imagesforme.com/upload/9d419a28.png

http://www .imagesforme.com/upload/e3c5c5bd.png
mostro
(junior member)
2009-11-17 05:56 PM

Mostro je krenuo da reklamira Ubuntu, dzaba brzi boot ili sarena laza
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pa procitaj ponovo moje postove. Nije tako. Na to sam naisao na netu i mislio sam da je dobro i drugi da vide. Da, radi se samo o boot-u, ali se radi o brzini a ne o grafici i bugovima, nije mi namera da skrecem paznju na Ubuntu i uopste na linux, ali eto da uporedimo Vistu sa Win-7. Gde je tu brzina win-7 sa kojom ste svi bili odusevljeni ovde na forumu kad se pojavio RC ?
O samom kvalitetu Win-7 ne mogu da se izjasnjavam, to još ne može ni Microsoft, pa je zato i izbacio taj besplatni RC na godinu dana za testing.
ali_deda_i_40_ajduka
(udaren u glavu)
2009-11-17 06:34 PM
Mostro sav linux je stalno RC pogotovo Ubuntu, na 6 meseci novi riliz, pogledaj grub u 9.10 piše lepo beta. Nego bas sad instaliram virtuelno onaj Vector, nije nešto, zeza već kod instlacije, neume da se iscupa iz particionisanja, plus jeste-nije zadjabe, vidim ide kod instalacije tekst daj pare kupi me. Probacu ga bas da vidim kako radi. Mostro sustina sadasnjih OS je graficko okruzeneje i multimedija, oni naprave Compiz a onda to ne pasuje sa ostalim. Ne pišem ja samo zbog TV kartice, tu je zvuk alsa ili pulse nikako to da srede, ima toga koliko oćeš, jednostavno brljaju. Ako ćeš OS samo za surf onda može, zamisli koja bi se frka digla kad bi windows tako zezao sa grafickim okruzenjem i zvukom, razapeli bi ih na krst. Ja stavljam virtuelne linuxe d ami posluže za surf.
mostro
(junior member)
2009-11-18 01:25 PM

kad bi windows tako zezao sa grafickim okruzenjem i zvukom, razapeli bi ih na krst.
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pa bilo bi cudo da izbace nešto nedovrseno kao sto su linux distribucije, jer treba sagledati kolika se tu lova obrce i koliko visoko kvalifikovanih programera pravi taj Windows. A linukse prave dobrovoljno i kad ko stigne. U tome i jeste velika razlika i ako hoćeš da imaš neki proizvod za trziste, tu mora da postoji i razlog koji opravdava cenu. Za jedan besplatni OS, ne samo Ubuntu, nego skoro svi linuksi su pravi poklon. Prema tome, ako govorimo o kvalitetu, treba da uzmemo i tu cinjenicu u obzir, a poklonu se u zube mnogo ne gleda, Šta bi još hteo za dzabaka ?

Ja taj Vector nisam uspeo da instaliram, poceo sam, ali kad sam odabrao opciju da se instalira na free space, on mi je izbacio velicinu prostora koja je iznosila 90 % celog mog diska i nisam bio siguran da neće da mi obrise i windows i Ubuntu. Posle sam pokusao da instaliram PCLinuxOS (ranije sam ga instalirao bez problema), ali mi je tražio da pravim particije i formatiram ih pre instalacije. I onda sam i od toga odustao, prekinuo instalaciju, jer ne znam kako bih resio i Lilo i Grub i MBR, sve na jednom disku. Mrzi me da tražim rešenja iskreno da kažem, a sigurno da postoje. Tako da sam sad sa jednim win-xp i jednim linuksom.

U međuvremenu sam probao i ovaj novi PMagic 4.6 sa Grub4Dos i CloneZilla (187 Mb) i doterali su ga u odnosu na prethodne verzije, sve je bolji. Probao sam i novi Nimblex, njega je Rumun nešto uprskao, pa i onaj za na custom. Bila je bolja verzija 2007 i ja cuvam jednu kopiju sto sam je napravio za sebe sa Skype i još dosta programa koje sam mu dodao. To na novoj verziji ne radi kako treba, valjda će videti i ispraviti, nije mi jasno da neko izbaci goru verziju nego sto je bila.
Ubuntu mi je još 8.04, ne koristim ni kompiz ni screenlets i nemam ama bas nikakvih problema od kad je izasao. Probao sam 9.1 ali nisam imao zvuk pri podizanju sistema ni za shut-down, možda može da se podesi kad se instalira, ali sacekacu 10.04 na proleće. Mislim da je i 8.04 malo losiji od 7.04 zbog onih povremenih zatamnjenja ekrana. To mi se nije desavalo ni na Mandrake 10.1 kojeg se po nekad uželim ;)

ali_deda_i_40_ajduka
(udaren u glavu)
2009-11-18 02:11 PM
Mostro nema tu dzabaka je pa onda cupaj kosu. Ovo je surova utakmica i to „poklonu se u zube ne gleda” ovde ne vazi, ili pravis kako valja ili ispadas iz trke. Usput iza Ubuntu stoji onaj multi-miloner što se vozo u svemir, iza Suse stoji Novell itd...Neke distribucije se prodaju a koriste besplatne programe...Probaj Mint 8 RC1 Helena, meni se svidja kako brzo radi u odnosu na Ubuntu 9.10, meni na 512MB virtuelne memorije leti a Ubuntu imam kao dual boot i kad ga podignem 2GB memorije mu je raspoložilo, 70GB na disku, kompletna graficka sa 256MB i opet se vuce ko mrcina.
mostro
(junior member)
2009-11-18 02:32 PM
Probacu i taj Mint cisto iz radoznalosti. Inače imam utisak da su kde distribucije dosta brže od gnome pri radu i pokretanju programa. Te ostale koje su radjene od Ubuntua mi nisu mnogo bile interesantne. Možda ću da probam SuperUbuntu, izgleda mi kao da je taj dobro doteran, međutim kao sto i sam kažeš treba prvo probati. Imaš i neke placene verzije na softarchive i sl. sajtovima, ali ih ja nisam isprobavao.
Trebao bih da proširim ram dok ne zastari, malo je danas 512, mada mi je 2,6 Ghz solidno. Sad i ove nove sto prodaju uglavnom nisu vise Ghz, a nejasno mi je koliko je taj dual core od 2 Ghz brzi od ovog mog ili možda nije uopste. Nebih da bacam pare bez veze jer ionako nemam nekih potreba za boljim PC.
wsadmin
2009-11-18 07:14 PM
Malko mi je xp doqurcio, iskreno,. Inače je dobar oS. Inače win 7 je jako jako dobro odradjen. Imam 6-7 god star P4 i leti sa win7. Mnooooogo brzi nego xp. Da ne govorim da se nisam izyebao sa drajverima etc.
Skyline_GTR
2009-11-28 11:48 PM
Za sve one koji se zale na Windows 7-ću postoji nedavno objavljeni Chrome OS. Sa njim ne mozete da omasite obzirom da ne može ništa ni da mu se menja, ni da mu se dodaje, ni da mu se instalira - ono sto ti se da to ti je - i nema jaukanja... a ne nešto MSFT napravi i onda se traže dlake u jajetu šta mu ne valja samo iz neke navike bez valjanog razloga. No, primedbe na racun Viste su i te kako opametile MSFT jer je odlucio da napravi nešto bolje i izbaci dok Linux nije preuzeo primat.

Pored toga - mislim da će sa Windows 7-om oslabiti potraznja i zainteresovanje za Apple racunare (MAC). Sama cinjenica da MAC nije finger friendly po pitanju multi-touch ekrana, jedno bi trebali da urade a to je da izbace nešto novo sto će moći da se nosi sa Win7-om...
Matrox
(volim sve sto vole mladi)
2010-01-08 04:21 PM
Pozdravljam diskutante!

Poslijednji post me iznenadjuje, sa koliko neznanja ljudi barataju:

Skyline kaže:„Za sve one koji se zale na Windows 7-ću postoji nedavno objavljeni Chrome OS. ”

Čitaj malo pa onda diskutiraj, Google ima odredjene zahtjeve za konfiguraciju hardvera na koju će proizvodjaci moći intalirati njihov OS,(procesor,memorija, cipset itd.)Možemo se zapitati zašto MS nikada nije učinio tako nešto,nego smo mogli kupiti kompjuter sa celeron procesorom i 512 MB RAM, koji ne može biti ništa drugo nego los.
Trazenje dlake u jajetu kao sto netko rece, ne bih to tako nazvao kada to jaje platis 400€,a ono se pokaze da jaje i nije bas neko.
Dalje, usporedjivati MS Windows i Linux je u najmanju ruku neumjesno, zato što Linux(za privatne korisnike) ne kosta ništa osim zivaca.Najveca snaga Linuxa je u server segmentu i tu MS ne može ništa učiniti, Linux server distribucije su stabilne i pouzdane u rukama ljudi koji znaju šta rade.( ovdje ne racunam kucne majstore koji imaju problema sa instalacijom Compiz ili zvucne kartice).
Na kraju, ono sto je mene navelo da se javim, je usporedba Windows OS i OSX. Skyline_GTR, zapamti da NIKADA jedan MAC korisnik neće preci na Windows, makar ga zvali Win 21.

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