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Tokari pre 4, 000 do 2, 400 godine u Takla Maklan
sweetpaprika
2009-12-16 12:46 AM
Ovu temu mene opcini. Beli narod su živelu u Taklan Makan pesak u centralnu azije. Njin lik su imali dugacke noze, plave ili crvene kose, plave oci i velike oci, tanke usne.

Interesantne stvar je sto oni radili lepe tkanina. Tkanina, tkati, tkac su slične reč sa TOK. Da li su slavski/baltski narod svali njija tkacari?

http://www.burlingtonnews.net/redhairedmummieschina.html
The mummies had long noses and skulls, blond or red hair, thin lips, deepset eyes, and other unmistakably Aryan features. Dr. Victor H. Mair of the University of Pennsylvania said, „Because the Tarim Basin Caucasoid corpses are almost certainly representatives of the Indo-European family, and because they date from a time period early enough to have a bearing on the expansion of the Indo-European people from their homeland, it is thought that they will play a crucial role in determining just where that might have been.” ( Personally I believe that the opposite is true. I believe that the European Man came out of or was part of this pre-existing culture that has been found around the world...including China. ..Sutherland)

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A search of a museum reveals a young woman with an overbite, which is European in nature, and a elderly man with reddish hair. They also find woolen textiles woven into twill and tartan patterns in blue, white, and red. Similar to the Celtic tartans from Northwest Europe. Scientific reconstruction of the heads of the mummies produces a face that strongly resembles ancient Celts and Saxons.

The mummy people used the wheel long before it was known in China, and may have played a role in introducing it to Chinese civilization.

There are 3,000-year-old rock engravings similar to ones in Bulgaria and the Ukraine. The characters have long noses, long faces and round eyes. According to the ancient Chinese, the European nomads had red hair, bluish-green eyes and had long noses.

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The mummies had long noses and skulls, blond or red hair, thin lips, deepest eyes, and other unmistakably Aryan features. Dr. Victor H. Mair of the University of Pennsylvania said,

„Because the Tarim Basin Caucasoid corpses are almost certainly representatives of the Indo-European family, and because they date from a time period early enough to have a bearing on the expansion of the Indo-European people from their homeland, it is thought that they will play a crucial role in determining just where that might have been.”

One such mummy of a teenaged girl with blond hair and blue yes, found in a cave, has become quite a tourist attraction in Beijing. She has been nicknamed „The Lady of Tarim” and she is on display to throngs of museum visitors in the Chinese capital.



Apparently she was a princess or a priestess of some kind over 3,000 years ago, for she was buried in fine embroidered garments of wool and leather, along with beautiful jewelry, jars and ornaments of gold, silver, jade and onyx. Her remains are in such a remarkable state of preservation that the dead girl looks as if she were just sleeping.

Danilov
(student)
2009-12-16 02:37 PM
O Toharima na Forumu Srpskih Patriota..

http://www.nsprogram.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1777
mandalina
(vila)
2009-12-17 01:45 PM
Jeste koren svoh belaca na tom prostoru, jedina je razlika sto ako potrazis kroz istoriju tih prostora Slovene, ne nalazis ih ni.. ni Ruse.. a Srbe,Srbistane, Sarbe i Sorbe, svuda ima u tom periodu pre Latina i Grka.
Danilov
(student)
2009-12-17 01:55 PM
Koreni svih Indo-Evropljana su Anatolija i Balkan..
Tohari vode poreklo iz doline Dunava..

According to Renfrew (2003), the spread of Indo-European proceeded in the following steps:

* Around 6500 BC: Pre-Proto-Indo-European, located in Anatolia, splits into Anatolian and Archaic Proto-Indo-European, the language of those Pre-Proto-Indo-European farmers that migrate to Europe in the initial farming dispersal. Archaic Proto-Indo-European languages occur in the Balkans (Starčevo-Körös-Cris culture), in the Danube valley (Linear Pottery culture), and possibly in the Bug-Dniestr area (Eastern Linear pottery culture).
* Around 5000 BC: Archaic Proto-Indo-European splits into Northwestern Indo-European (the ancestor of Italic, Celtic, and Germanic), located in the Danube valley, Balkan Proto-Indo-European (corresponding to Gimbutas' Old European culture), and Early Steppe Proto-Indo-European (the ancestor of Tocharian).
* After 3000 BC: The Greek, Armenian, Albanian, Indo-Iranian and Balto-Slavic families develop from Balkan Proto-Indo-European. Proto-Greek speakers move southward into Greece; Proto-Indo-Iranian moves northeast into the steppe area.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatolian_hypothesis
Svjatoslav
(cernorezac)
2009-12-17 05:13 PM
Ima četiri teorije u nauci odakle poticu Indoevropljani. Ja sam studirao indoevropski na fakultetu u Kopenhagenu godinu dana, pa sam upoznat sa naučnim tokovima po tom pitanju.

Najpopularnija teorija je da Indoevropljani poticu iz Jermenije, jer je jermenski po lingvistima najblizi protoindoevropskom.

Ali, glup je ko veruje lingvistima.

Nisu Indoevropljani ni iz Jermenije ni iz Anatolije ni iz centralne Azije ni sa Balkana.

Indoevropljani su iz Indije. Ta teorija se nazivao OOI out of india teorija, i nju propagire samo nekoliko evropskih naucnika i gomila iz Indije.

U pravu su. Mohendjo Daro nije bila dravidska civilizacija. Dravidi nisu bili u Indiji pre Indoevropljana. Nema nikakvih materijalnih niti lingvistickih dokaya za to.

Indoevropljani su se najpre iselili za Iran, pa odatle svuda okolo. Dokaz za to je i prica o ratu Deva i Asura. Indusi su Deve Iranci Asure. Ali reč Deva postoji u svim indoevropskim jezicima (npr. „Deus” - bog, „Devil” - djavo, naše Div, litvanske Deve itd.itd.)

Indoevropljani su izasli iz Indije.
Danilov
(student)
2009-12-18 08:37 AM
Kuraganova hipoteza o poreklu Indo-Evropljana ima najviše sledbenika-dok je u poslednje vreme sve vise naucnika koji podržavaju Anatolsku hipotezu..

The Kurgan hypothesis is presently the most widely held theory and is based on linguistic, archaeological, and genetic evidence. It suggests PIE origin in the Pontic-Caspian steppe during the Chalcolithic. A minority of scholars prefers the Anatolian hypothesis, suggesting origin in Anatolia during the Neolithic. Other theories (Armenian hypothesis, Out of India theory, Paleolithic Continuity Theory) have only marginal scientific support.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-Europeans
Varuna
(novinar)
2009-12-18 09:25 PM

16. decembar 2009. u 00.46
Ovu temu mene opcini.
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Heheh,sweet paprika. pricas kao onaj pandur iz serije „Alo,Alo”)))

Interesantne stvar je sto oni radili lepe tkanina. Tkanina, tkati, tkac su slične reč sa TOK. Da li su slavski/baltski narod svali njija tkacari?
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Retko muškarci tkaju.Tkači i tkalje..

A TOKE kod TOKARA su ovo na muškoj garderobi (pa kad zaigraju i zazveče i muški i ženskinje, čuje se i na Tibetu)))

http://www.babamim.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/DSCN2522.248100940_std.JPG

http://www.serbianunity .net/culture/history/Hist_Serb_Culture/pictures/chest_ador.jpeg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8917/cuvarihristov oggrobaizvrlikeyc3.jpg

mandalina
(vila)
2009-12-18 10:23 PM
Malo banaćanskog kola? ko ga ne bi vol'o...okreće se laako...evo vi''š ovako..

„Na Mariini seferiniii,
a u Djokee zlatne toke”!!!
Aljosha
2009-12-22 10:40 AM
Na prostorima centralne Azije mogu se videti ljudi kosih azijatskih, često plavih ociju i plave kose, imaju karakteristike obe (uslovno reeceno) rase a nisu ni jedno ni drugo. I u Srbiji među Madjarima, mozete videti takav tip coveka, vrlo se razlikuju od pomadjarenih Slovena po obliku lobanje, načinu govora, gestikulacije...Tako da te mumije uopste ne moraju pripadati Evropljanima. Gledao sam emisiju na History gde su odmah pozurili da vunu od koje je ispredena tkanina na mumijama povezu s pasminom ovaca koje su se eto, bas gajile na germanskim prostorima! Strasno je kako samosugestija vodi u istorijski falsifikat, od Stounhendža pa nadalje svaki zub koji su podvrgnuli analizi pokazuje da je sve vredno iskopano iz britanskog tla napredno došlo iz (pretpostavljene)domovina sadašnjih Engleza!
think-pink
2009-12-24 02:45 AM
Termin Sloven se pojavio oko 5-6-og veka n.e. Znaci oko 6.000 godina je bio u upotrebi termin Srb, Sorab, Sirb, itd. a samo oko 1500 godina je u upotrebi termin Sloven. Da li Sloven treba da zameni Srbina i kome smeta taj termin? Kome smeta naše ime?
sweetpaprika
2009-12-25 08:49 PM
In the manuscript of the anonymous Bavarian geographer was written: „...Zeruiani (the Serbs), whose kingdom is so great, that from them all the Slav peoples came into being and are said to originate from them.”
Danilov
(student)
2009-12-25 09:45 PM
Od Srba vode poreklo svi Sloveni.
Pre 1300 godina svi Sloveni su govorili jedan jezik i imali zajednicki naziv Srblji..

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