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Maja128
(majka)
2011-02-21 03:23 AM
Da ne bi provodila sad, može i na google translate.

GM Soy Can Lead to Hormonal Disruption and Miscarriages

The active ingredient in Roundup herbicide is called glyphosate, which is responsible for the disruption of the delicate hormonal balance of the female reproductive cycle.

„It's an endocrine buster,” says UK pathologist Stanley Ewen, „that interferes with aromatase, which produces estrogen.”

What's more, glyphosate is toxic to the placenta, which is responsible for delivering vital nutrients from mother to child, and eliminating waste products. Once the placenta has been damaged or destroyed, the result can be miscarriage. In those children born to mothers who have been exposed to even a small amount of glyphosate, serious birth defects can result.

In an excellent summary of glyphosate-related effects by the Pesticide Action Network, Dr. Andreas Carrasco of the Embryology Laboratory, Faculty of Medicine in Buenos Aires, simply and expertly explains the serious risks for unborn children exposed to Roundup-laden GMO soy products.

Amphibian embryos were exposed to a tiny concentration of glyphosate (diluted 5000 fold) and showed the following effects:

„Effects included reduced head size, genetic alterations in the central nervous system, increased death of cells that help form the skull, deformed cartilage, eye defects, and undeveloped kidneys. Carrasco also stated that the glyphosate was not breaking down in the cells, but was accumulating.

The findings lend weight to claims that abnormally high levels of cancer, birth defects, neonatal mortality, lupus, kidney disease, and skin and respiratory problems in populations near Argentina's soybean fields may be linked to the aerial spraying of Roundup.”

The long-term effects of the human consumption of genetically modified soy and soy-based products are staggering.

In April 2010, researchers at Russia's Institute of Ecology and Evolution of the Russian Academy of Sciences and the National Association for Gene Security found that after feeding hamsters GM soy for two years over three generations, by the third generation, most lost the ability to have babies! Now, let's take a close look at some of the health risks to YOU as a result of eating genetically modified soy.

Infertility in Women

Do you want to start a family? Have you had any trouble conceiving, perhaps due to irregular menstrual cycles or endometriosis? Have you ever experienced a miscarriage?

If so, what you're about to read will shock you.

A Brazilian study published in 2009 looked at the impact of soy on the reproductive system of female rats. Female rats fed GM soy for 15 months showed significant changes in their uterus and reproductive cycles, compared to rats fed organic soy or no soy.

Extrapolating the findings to people, women who eat genetically modified soy products, such as the soy protein isolate in processed vegetarian fare, may be more likely to experience severe hormonal disruptions, including an overabundance of estrogen, a hair-growth stimulating hormone, and damage to the pituitary gland.

According to Dr. Stanley Ewen, the female rats fed GM soy probably had an increase in progesterone, which could cause an increase in the number of eggs released during each ovulation cycle.

You might think this would lead to an increase in fertility. However, as discussed in an article by Jeffrey Smith, women who consume genetically modified soy products are at increased risk for developing retrograde menstruation (the menstrual cycle backs up into the body instead of outward), causing endometriosis, which can lead to infertility.

The consumption of soy protein isolate and other soy-based products can also lead to abnormally heavy or longer menstrual periods. This is called menorrhagia and, ironically, some commercials have been popping up with a new pill that supposedly offers the „cure” for this „mystery syndrome.”

When in reality the real cure for some women is as simple as removing soy and soy-based products from the diet. The negative effects of soy are not restricted to women, however.

Loss of Libido & Erectile Dysfunction in Men

Guys, do you enjoy protein bars or use a weight gainer shake? If so, be sure to read the label to see if the products you use contain any soy ingredients. Did you know that celibate monks living in monasteries and leading a vegetarian lifestyle find soy foods quite helpful for dampening libido?

Another drawback: Soy has also been linked to erectile dysfunction. The two natural drugs found in soy, genistein and daidzein, mimic estrogen so well that they have been known to cause a variety of alarming side effects in men:

Breast enlargement (gynecomastia)
Decreased facial and body hair growth
Decreased libido
Mood swings and frequent crying jags
Erectile dysfunction
Lowered sperm count
For example, one recent study documented a case of gynecomastia in a 60-year-old man as a result of his soy consumption. Another study showed that juvenile rats exposed to daidzein showed impaired erectile function at maturity.

Men, if you've experienced one or any of these symptoms, soy could be the culprit. Remove it from your diet, but be sure to consult a trusted physician if your symptoms do not improve or get worse as this could be a sign of another serious condition.
Babies -- Birth Control in a Bottle

As stated in a number of previous articles, soy formula is one of the most dangerous foods you can feed your baby!

„In 1998, investigators reported that the daily exposure of infants to isoflavones in soy infant formula is 6 to11 times higher on a body-weight basis than the dose that has hormonal effects in adults consuming soy foods. Circulating concentrations of isoflavones in infants fed soy-based formula were 13,000 to 22,000 times higher than plasma estradiol concentrations in infants on cow's milk formula.”

What does this mean? Feeding your infant soy-based formula can cause a host of health problems including:

Behavioral problems
Food allergies and digestive distress
Early puberty and fertility problems (including the inability to menstruate)
Asthma
Precocious puberty for girls and gynecomastia (man boobs) for boys
Thyroid disease
Cancer
As I concluded in my article on infant formula, babies who are fed exclusively from the breast from birth to six months enjoy health benefits such as:

Lower risk of respiratory tract and middle ear infections
Lower risk of eczema
Lower risk of obesity
Added protection against heart disease, diabetes, asthma, and allergies
Improved brain function and immune system function
Soy formula is also laden with toxic chemicals such as aluminum and manganese, which can cause both physical and mental health problems, learning disabilities, brain damage and behavioral problems. If, for some reason, you are unable to breastfeed or have adopted a baby, look into these recipes for homemade infant formula.

School Lunch -- Children's Nutrition Left Behind

In order to comply with new US Government standards, soy products are now being used to replace whole, nutritious foods in school lunches. Due to the decreased fat content of soy, it is touted as a healthful alternative to the meat and dairy of yesterday's hot meal.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

Soy added to your child's hot lunch depletes the necessary nutrients needed for healthy growth and has been linked to learning disabilities. I encourage you to watch this sobering video to learn more about the dangers in your child's school lunch. Do your children a favor and send them to school with a healthy, home-packed meal.

Evo ga sajt:

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/02/19/the-dirty-little-secret-hidden-in-much-of-you... alth-food.aspx
paukovaca
(obaram s nogu)
2011-02-21 09:34 AM
Maja128,

dobro je sto si postavila ovaj tekst, tačno je sve to.

naročito zato što je teško naći soju koja nije genetski modifikovana.

ja sad nemam vremena da čitam ceo tekst, ali gmo soja je naročito stetna za decu, a čim je stetna za decu, stetna je i za odrasle.

takođe bilo kakva soja i njeni proizvodi se ne preporucuje ženama koje imaju hormonske probleme, miome materice i sl.

soja zapravo i nije toliko super zdrava kako lobisti pokusavaju da je predstave.
ona je samo veoma jeftina i laka za uzgoj, pa se lobiranjem pokusava da predstavi kao super zdrava namirnica, jer će time nahraniti mnogo ljudi. ali kvantitet ne podrazumeva i kvalitet.

paukovaca
(obaram s nogu)
2011-02-21 09:56 AM
da dodam samo, zbog svega toga treba izbaciti iz ishrane industrijske suhomesnate proizvode u kojima ima soje.
dajanara
(professor)
2011-02-21 12:08 PM
Soju definitivno treba izbegavati iz hiljadu razloga.
Mayche
(~♥~)
2011-02-21 08:13 PM
Soja je biljka koja se 'brani' od bica koja je jedu tako što 'napada' njihov reproduktivni sistem... Još kad je genetski modifikuju, ne smem ni da pomislim.
Suncokret_mali
2011-02-22 10:29 AM
Fermentisana soja miso, tempeh,soya sos i natto(navaodno najbolji izvor prirodnog probiotika) su jedini oblici soje koji se mogu jesti, u tim oblicima se i koristio u azijatskim zemljama i naravno pod uslovom da nije GMO.
paukovaca
(obaram s nogu)
2011-02-22 10:49 AM
Suncokret_mali,

zašto soja miso nije stetna?
MostlyHarmless
(biotech)
2011-02-23 05:58 AM
Nemojte mi zameriti, samo bih malo da raščlanim stvari, jer je u uvodnom topiku ima više nezavisnih pitanja ili teza ili tema za diskusiju:

1. da li je OBIČNA soja zdrava ili ne? Da li je BILO KOJA biljka/hrana zdrava ako se koristi u prekomernim količinama?

2. da li je NEPRSKANA GM soja zdrava ili ne, tj. da li je rezistencija na glifozat (dotična uvedena GM osobina) sama po sebi nešto nezdravo (ja vas uveravam da je GM soja podjednako (ne)zdrava kao i „prirodna” soja, razlika je samo u jednom ekstra dodatom proteinu koji se u crevima svari ko i svi ostali proteini)

3. da li je herbicid glifozat tj. Roundup nezdrav ili ne (sigurno da je nezdrav i opasan, ali su isto tako opasni i drugi herbicidi i pesticidi - nezdravi su i toksični, neki manje a neki više. Ja bih uvek pre pojela bilo šta GM a neprskano, nego to isto „prirodno” a prskano). Da li je „organska” hrana tako dobra zato što nije GM ili zato što ničim nije PRSKANA?

4. Da li su ne-GM biljke, generalno, manje PRSKANE koječime od GM biljaka? NE, naprotiv, „prirodne” biljke se moraju prskati više, sa mnogo raznovrsnijim herbicidima i pesticidima.

Ne treba biti isključiv kad su takve stvari u pitanju...

A na stranu GM, samo se pristetite u recimo zadnjih 20 godina šta je sve bilo IN a šta OUT što se nutricionističkih vrednosti namirnica tiče, pa to su samo trendovi, propaganda i komercijalni trikovi. Bilo je puter je valja već samo margarin, posle je bilo margarin ne valja jer se lepi za creva, pa svinjetina je užas zbog holesterola, a posle je bila svinjetina u trendu zbog uticaja na imunitet, pa je bilo Atkins je super, posle je bilo ne valja proteinska dijeta, ma kraja tome nema, bilo je i soja je vrh zbog proteina, a sad ne valja... ma sve je samo stvar tržišta i suzbijanja konkurencije.
Vanderbilt
(whatever)
2011-02-23 11:26 AM
Soja je najveca prevara 20. veka - a evo prelila se i u 21. Neverovatno je prosto koliko je ta namirnica stetna po ljudski organizam a koliko je rasprostranjeno uverenje da je zapravo - zdrava. To znači da je marketing odradjen fenomenalno; kad je trebalo smisliti kako uvaliti soju ljudima, poslo se od pretpostavke da ako je prihvati „elita”, običan narod će automatski verovati da to mora da je nešto ekstra dobro. I ispostavilo se da su bili u pravu. Soja je danas u gotovo svim namirnicama - kao emulgator, makar, a često i kao jeftin dodatak masi - u mesnim preradjevinama, pecivima itd... Skoro ju je nemoguće izbeci u potpunosti. Kad odem u prodavnicu „zdrave” hrane i pronadjem čitave rafove namirnica od soje, dodje mi da menadzeru posaljem mejl sa par korisnih linkova. Neverovatno je koliko su ljudi nesvesni sopstvene neinformisanosti. A pronaći informacije o proizvodima koji u sebi ne sadrže soju je toliko teško, kao da je vojna tajna.

GM ili non-GM, soja je uzasno stetna i treba je izbegavati na svaki mogući način. Soja sa ugradjenim herbicidima je vrhunac morbidnosti. Da je generalna populacija (mislim prevashodno na severnu Ameriku) malo manje ustekana na internet i reality shows a malo vise u dodiru sa realnoscu, možda ne bi mogli da nam rade to što nam rade. Ali avaj, ko će sve postici - i da bude informisan o zdravlju i da bude u toku sa Jersey Shore ekipom?
MostlyHarmless
(biotech)
2011-02-23 10:07 PM
Soja sa ugradjenim herbicidima je vrhunac morbidnosti.
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Ajd mi malo pojasni šta je to soja sa ugradjenim herbicidima?
Vanderbilt
(whatever)
2011-02-25 12:09 AM
htela sam da kažem sa ugradjenim genom otpornim na herbicid

glupo sam se izrazila

ali poenta je i dalje morbidna
Suncokret_mali
2011-02-25 12:13 AM
Paukovaca evo zašto samo ću da prekopiram
Soy can be incredibly healthful, but ONLY if it is organic and properly fermented.

After a long fermentation process, the phytate and „anti-nutrient” levels of soybeans are reduced, and their beneficial properties become available to your digestive system.

You may have heard that Japanese people live longer and have lower rates of cancer than Americans because they eat so much soy—but it’s primarily fermented soy that they consume, and it’s always been that way.
MostlyHarmless
(biotech)
2011-02-25 03:03 AM
htela sam da kažem sa ugradjenim genom otpornim na herbicid

glupo sam se izrazila

ali poenta je i dalje morbidna .
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Zašto bi to bilo morbidno?
Kako ja gledam na stvari, to je baš dobro.
Vidiš, korovi smetaju usevima - zaklanjaju im svetlost, takmiče se sa usevima za vodu i hranljive materije i predstavljaju stalni izvor zaraza virusima, gljivicama i sklonište štetočinama.
Usevi se vekovima pleve i prskaju protiv korova.
Moderna agronomija, svidelo se to tebi ili ne, podrazumeva višekratno prskanje useva protiv različitih vrsta korova u raznim fazama rasta biljaka... Ovako, ako se u biljku uvede samo jedan gen koji daje otpornost na neki jak, generalni herbicid (generalni u smislu da ubija sve vrste korova tj. sve biljke osim otpornih), dovoljno je jednokratno isprskati njivu, lepo se sve potamani, a GM kultivaru nije ništa. Zato je GM kultivare dovoljno prskati mnogo MANJE nego obične, manje hemije na njivama, manje zagadjenja vode i sve što ide uz to. Ništa nije crno-belo, pa ni biotehnologija. Sve je onako, sivkasto.
Ja sam ZA GM, pod uslovom da za takvo gajenje postoje odgovarajući uslovi tj prostranstvo, čega u Srbiji nema. A posebno sam 100% za kad su u pitanju recimo biljke za tekstilnu industriju koje se ne konzumiraju, kao pamuk, lan i druge industrijske biljke, apsolutno treba da budu GM. Imam još 100 primera gde sam apsolutno ZA GM biljke, zlatni pirinač, biorazgradljiva plastika, jestive vakcine, neću da vas gušim sad...
Vanderbilt
(whatever)
2011-02-25 01:21 PM
Pa posto u zagradi ispod imena imaš „biotech” sasvim mi je logicno da na to gledaš pozitivno. Ja, za razliku od tebe, uopste ne mislim da su biotech crops najbolja stvar koju je covek izmislio od sladoleda na ovamo. Uopste ne volim naucni napredak koji se bazira na zanemarivanju svih drugih prioriteta: zdravlja i zivota, klime, zivotne sredine, prirodnog ekvilibrijuma svake vrste - koji na zalost uvek stoje na putu ka velikoj i brzoj zaradi sa minimalnim gubicima, a običan svet je suvise bizi sa svojim 9-5 poslovima, dvosatnim putovanjima do kuce i reality serijama, da bi stigao da kriticki razmišlja o tome šta zapravo jede ili pije. Ne svidjaju mi se ni superkorovi koji se stvaraju ovim putem, ni to što se neko igra sa mojom hranom da bi mu bilo jeftiije da je proizvodi, ni to što mi Roundup-ready zitarice uticu na funkciju endokrinog sistema, ni sto polako prelazimo na neklijajuce semenke i onemogućavamo biljke da se razmnozavaju prirodnim putem. Nalazim celu GM pricu morbidnom - to što je nauka u stanju da ponudi objašnjenje za neophodnost ove tehnologije je samo jedna strana price. Kad bih resila da zastupam to mišljenje, i ja bih iznasla hiljadu nacina da ga obrazlozim, to uopste nije teško ali to nije ni poenta. Uskoro ćemo gajiti ne samo svinje koje ne smrde već i desetonoge pilice Sigurna sam da bi se i desetonogi pilici mogli na neki način podvesti pod zastitu zivotne sredine, bas kao i svaka druga stvar ako covek odabere da zanemari dovoljno kontra-argumenata.

Ali znaš šta, ova tema je bila toliko puta i toliko je crno-bela da je izlisno pricati o njoj duže i dublje pa nemam bas elana za nju. Svi imamo pristup istim informacijama i svako je slobodan da formira svoje mišljenje na osnovu njih. A i da bira šta će jesti, bar dok još imamo kakav-takav izbor.

Happy eating svima.

MostlyHarmless
(biotech)
2011-02-26 09:30 AM
Vala baš.
Šta je nokom morbidno, meni je - magično.
Naravno da ne mogu da pljujem po nečemu čemu sam posvetila dobar deo života, što me fascinira i u šta iskreno verujem.
paukovaca
(obaram s nogu)
2011-02-26 11:47 AM
Suncokret_mali,

koristim miso ponekad pa sam zato pitala.

znaci, koliko sma ja shvatila, miso se ne pravi od GMO soje?
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