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Amatercic
(Penzioner)
2011-08-26 06:12 PM
Šta su nam NATA i demokrati doneli ili su Ameri postali lencine.
Zakljucuite sami ovo je danas objavljeno i Yahoo na Finance's prenio
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.e Slow Disappearance of the American Working Man
by Mike Dorning
Thursday, August 25, 2011
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A smaller share of men have jobs today than at any time since World War II
As President Barack Obama puts together a new jobs plan to be revealed shortly after Labor Day, he is up against a powerful force, long in the making, that has gone virtually unnoticed in the debate over how to put people back to work: Employers are increasingly giving up on the American man.
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If that sounds bleak, it's because it is. The portion of men who work and their median wages have been eroding since the early 1970s. For decades the impact of this fact was softened in many families by the increasing number of women who went to work and took up the slack. More recently, the housing bubble helped to mask it by boosting the male-dominated construction trades, which employed millions. When real estate ultimately crashed, so did the prospects for many men. The portion of men holding a job—any job, full- or part-time—fell to 63.5 percent in July—hovering stubbornly near the low point of 63.3 percent it reached in December 2009. These are the lowest numbers in statistics going back to 1948. Among the critical category of prime working-age men between 25 and 54, only 81.2 percent held jobs, a barely noticeable improvement from its low point last year—and still well below the depths of the 1982-83 recession, when employment among prime-age men never dropped below 85 percent. To put those numbers in perspective, consider that in 1969, 95 percent of men in their prime working years had a job.
Men who do have jobs are getting paid less. After accounting for inflation, median wages for men between 30 and 50 dropped 27 percent—to $33,000 a year— from 1969 to 2009, according to an analysis by Michael Greenstone, a Massachusetts Institute of Technology economics professor who was chief economist for Obama's Council of Economic Advisers. „That takes men and puts them back at their earnings capacity of the 1950s,” Greenstone says. „That has staggering implications.”
What is going on here? For one thing, women, who have made up a majority of college students for three decades and now account for 57 percent, are adapting better to a data-driven economy that values education and collaborative skills more than muscle. That isn't to say women have yet eclipsed men in the workplace. They continue to earn about 16 percent less than men and struggle against gender discrimination and career interruptions as they disproportionately take time away from the job to raise children. And both men and women have confronted job losses in the weak economy. In July, 68.9 percent of women aged 25-54 had jobs, vs. 72.8 percent in January 2008. (In 1969, however, fewer than half did.) After a long decline in men's work opportunities, the recession worsened things with a sharp drop in male employment. Unemployed men are now more likely than women to be among the long-term jobless.
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The economic downturn exacerbated forces that have long been undermining men in the workplace, says Lawrence Katz, a Harvard professor of labor economics. Corporations have cut costs by moving manufacturing jobs, routine computer programming, and even simple legal work out of the country. The production jobs that remain are increasingly mechanized and demand higher skills. Technology and efforts to reduce the number of layers within corporations are leaving fewer middle-management jobs.
The impact has been greatest on moderately skilled men, especially those without a college education, though even men with bachelor's degrees from less selective schools are beginning to see their position erode. „There's really been this polarization in the middle,” Katz says, as men at the top of the education and income scale see their earnings rise while those in the middle gravitate downward.
For generations, American workers kept up with technological change by achieving higher levels of education than their parents. High school education became the norm as the country progressed from an agrarian society to an industrial one. After World War II, increasing numbers of Americans went to college as the economy became more complex. But for reasons not fully understood, college graduation rates essentially stopped growing for men in the late 1970s, shortly after the Vietnam War ended, perhaps in part because draft deferments were no longer an inducement. Women, on the other hand, continued to pursue college degrees in greater numbers and have been more responsive to the changing economy in other ways, taking many of the nursing and technician positions in the expanding health-care industry and making greater headway in service jobs.
While unemployment is an ordeal for anyone, it still appears to be more traumatic for men. Men without jobs are more likely to commit crimes and go to prison. They are less likely to wed, more likely to divorce, and more likely to father a child out of wedlock. Ironically, unemployed men tend to do even less housework than men with jobs and often retreat from family life, says W. Bradford Wilcox, director of the National Marriage Project at the University of Virginia.
The long-term fix is simple to spell out and tough to achieve: getting more men to attend college and improving the skills of those who don't. Reducing financial barriers to higher education would be a start. But there isn't much political appetite for spending the billions it would take to make that happen. Even once-sacred Pell Grants are on the block as Washington looks for budget cuts. A strapped public education system that leaves many young men unprepared for the workplace, let alone college, doesn't help. It's noteworthy but not especially comforting to know that this is not just an American problem. The same gender differences in college attendance and employment are emerging in rich societies around the world.
Grappling with these intractable problems won't likely be Obama's top priority. He is under pressure to do something that will be felt now, not a generation from now. The longer people who are currently unemployed remain out of work, the more their skills will atrophy and the greater the risk of a cohort of men—and women—who become permanently detached from the workplace. Anything that raises employment overall would help. Obama is expected to propose tax incentives for employers to hire workers, a reduction in payroll taxes employers pay, and spending on infrastructure. Money for labor-intensive projects, such as retrofitting buildings for energy conservation or refurbishing aging schools, would be especially effective in putting men back to work in construction—though Washington is likely in no mood to pay for that either.
Other ideas that economists have proposed are geared toward keeping men with diminished opportunities from drifting out of the workforce altogether. They include reducing unemployment-benefits extensions for those who have been out of work for a year or more—to give those who are getting by on an unemployment check a stronger incentive to take a job, even if it's not the most desirable one. Others have proposed modifying the Social Security disability insurance system so that it is no longer an all-or-nothing proposition and instead subsidizes employers for hiring workers with partial disabilities. Since 1970, the fraction of 25- to 60-year-old men on disability has more than doubled, from 2.4 percent to 5 percent. Once they begin receiving disability payments, few return to work.
If there is any upside to recessions, it's that they tend to expose deep problems that go ignored or at least overlooked in better times. The short-term fixes the President proposes may provide much needed relief for the millions of people looking for a job. The danger is that the fixes will work just well enough to let us pretend—for a while longer—that the real problem is no longer there.
The bottom line: As women saw workplace gains in recent decades—68 percent of those 25 to 54 have jobs—men's prospects have diminished.
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santabarbara
(Penzioner)
2011-08-26 09:33 PM
I ovo je vredno procitati:
U.S.-Canada-Mexico Trade Pact (NAFTA)
Excerpt: „A bipartisan coalition of 132 Republicans and 102 Democrats prevailed over the opposition of 156 Democrats, 43 Republicans and one independent.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/trade/stories/tr111893.htm
http://www.ustr.gov/trade-agreemen
ts/free-trade-agreements/north-american-free-trade-agreement-nafta
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santabarbara
(Penzioner)
2011-08-26 09:36 PM
Ooops,
http://tinyurl.com/y9fju67
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StepaStepanovic
(technician)
2011-08-26 10:54 PM
I šta je rešenje amatercic? Za koga ćeš, i da li ćeš glasati? Ima puno da se cita ali daj rešenje.
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veliki_stomak
2011-08-27 06:31 AM
A smaller share of men have jobs today than at any time since World War II
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па нормално кад већ скоро све раде машине, роботи, компiутери,...
noncredit-money.org/
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veliki_stomak
2011-08-27 06:37 AM
http://www.slobodanjovanovic.org/author/stojannenadovic/?lang=lat
или краће:
http://tinyurl.com/3kargup
http://www1.serbiancafe.com/lat/diskusije/mesg/153/015624224/umro-je-veliki
-covek-stojan.html?4
или краће:
http://tinyurl.com/3eck97s
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veliki_stomak
2011-08-27 06:47 AM
Stojan Nenadović 04.01.2011. u 08:00
Gospodo, iznenađen sam da niko ne dolazi da komentariše. Nekreditni novac je realnost.
Američki kongresmen Dennis Kcinich, 17.decembra 2010. godine, podneo je Bill HR 6550 pod nazivom National Emergency Employment Act 2010, u kojem se predviđa uvođenje nekreditnog novca u SAD. Poklanjaće se novac za administraciju, infrastrukturu, penzije, prosvetu zdravstvo. Taj novac će izdavati Kongres i na njemu će pisati United States Note, za razliku od dolara na kojima piše Federal Reserve Note, i koje izdaje FED. Ovaj zakonski predlog zove se i Kraj Feda i označava se kao veliki događaj za SAD i za ceo ostali svet. U Srbiji se o tome ne zna ništa.
U britanskom parlamentu, 29. novembra 2010. godine, počela je debata o UK banking reform bill, kojom se predviđa uvođenje 100% obavezne rezerve, za razliku o od sadašnje frakcionalne rezerve, što takođe predstavlja kraj sadašnjeg sistema kreditnog novca. Takvu reformu podržava i Mervyn King guverner Bank of England. Bar Fond Slobodana Jovanovića treba da da piše i komentariše o takvim promenama, koje najavljuju početak Novog Doba.
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ево да ја овде прокоментаришем.
ерго, нормално да нико не коментарише. робови су заузети својим бедним животима. они мисле да је новац нешто...заправо они ништа и незнају о новцу, а знају неке безвезне годишњице итд. које су научили у Орвеловским школама.
робови, ... и даље за своје бедне животе.
и немо случајно да вам „пропадне” неки викенд. јере они који се жртвују, одн. тај усрани викенд су будале за робове !
а сад МРШ на посао (ако га уопште имате) РОБОВИ !!!
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veliki_stomak
2011-08-27 07:29 AM
еве и песме за слуге :
кућа посо...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgNkJfTfHa4
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veliki_stomak
2011-08-27 07:42 AM
Михаило Ђурић о демократији
најугледнији, највећи,... српски философ о демократији, плутократији,...
http://rutube.ru/tracks/4759161.html?v=6ae4d000021616c6366db92776abfa63
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шта је робови (заправо привид слободе, илузија слободе)-будала, а?!
мислите да сви гледају слике Јелене Карлеуше на Шлиц-Блиц и којекакве будалаштине на Фејсбук ?!!!!
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Amatercic
(Penzioner)
2011-08-27 12:24 PM
Stepo pojma nemam šta je rešenje to dobro znam,za koga ću glasati danas da skoro i nema razlike,znam sigurno neću za ovog danasnjeg i njegovog sekretara,ovaj nikad nije radio i to se vidi,plus rasist (nikad se beli nebi izabrao da je njegov religiozni ucitelj tako govorio) a drugi ne podnosi Srbe ni malo.U mom zivotu nikad nisam glasao demokratu za predsednika,demokratija me najurila i ravnopravnost iz Srbije,inače svako glasanje u proleće menjam partiju sebe smatram konzervativnim nezavisnim glasacem,verujem koliko para toliko muzike i da ne moramo zaduzivati praunuke šta obadve partije danas rade..Ne ja nisam nikad radio posao gde je država dotirala (kao SB)nego sam uvek dotirao državu
ima nas svakojakih sto je dobro,trebaju i jedni i drugi
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StepaStepanovic
(technician)
2011-08-27 09:25 PM
Bas niko ti ni priblizno ne odgovara? Tvoje ideje sa zaduzivanjem niko ne podržava od kandidata? Za koga si do sada glasao i zašto?
Jesi li čuo za predsednickog kandidata Ron Paula? Ako si čuo , gde si čuo za njega? Šta ti se kod njega svidja/nesvidja? Koliko dugo živis u Americi?
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Alideda
(i cetries' 'ajduka)
2011-08-27 10:54 PM
Stepa
Šta će to Ron Paul da učini da značajno poveca broj poslova u USA.
'Ajd, ali samo konkretno!
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Alideda
(i cetries' 'ajduka)
2011-08-27 10:54 PM
Nedostaje upitnik, ali to je pitanje za tebe, Stepo.
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StepaStepanovic
(technician)
2011-08-27 11:20 PM
Ko tebi, zemljace , „treba da stvori posao”? Jel to nešto što se od blata pravi? Daj s tim budalastinama vise... politicari zaluđuju priprosti svet sa „pravljenjem poslova”. Ovo je kapitalizam, socijalizma nigde nema da bi država „pravila poslove”.
On se zalaze za vise para u državnoj kasi, za ukidanje bespotrebnog trosenja, sto automatski stvara uslove, još jednom, uslove za bolju klimu što se tiče zaposlenosti.
Tačno je da roboti, tehnologija, produktivnost... čini da sve manje priprostog rada treba. Znaci vise para u obrazovanje a manje u vojsku, pa da se narod obuci za rad u novim uslovima.
Nema tu niko , zemljace, da ti „stvori poslove” , tako da ni Ron Paul, ne moze to.
Zalaze se za druge stvari, razlicite od ovih sto su već pokazali šta mogu i hoće. Kad se jednom stigne u bedu ko u Srbiji, mnogo je teze stvoriti dobru klimu . Nadam se da ti nije potrebno objašnjenje zašto je tako..
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Alideda
(i cetries' 'ajduka)
2011-08-28 12:30 AM
Ne treba meni niko.
Ja imam svoj.
Nego, šta bi s onim poslovima sto odose u Aziju?
Hoće li taj tvoj Roni nešto da učini oko toga ili neće?
Ako su mogli da prebace poslove u Aziju, mogli bi i da ih vrate iz Azije nazad u Ameriku.
Je li tako zemljace?
Šta kaže tvoj Roni o tome?
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Alideda
(i cetries' 'ajduka)
2011-08-28 12:40 AM
Ili da ti preformulisem malo ...
U USA je 50 miliona nezaposlenih, a radno sposobnih ljudi.
To je problem BROJ 1 u USA, onda nekoliko praznih mesta,
pa ostali problemi.
Šta će Ron Paul da učini u vezi tog problema, konkretno?
Ako neće ništa da učini, nemo' bre vise da nas davis s njim!
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Alideda
(i cetries' 'ajduka)
2011-08-28 12:56 AM
A sad malo konkretno ...
„On se zalaze za vise para u državnoj kasi, za ukidanje bespotrebnog trosenja, sto automatski stvara uslove, još jednom, uslove za bolju klimu što se tiče zaposlenosti.”
Kako će da ubaci vise para u državnu kasu?
Koja to bespotrebna trosenja će da ukine?
Vojsku? I don't think so!
„Tačno je da roboti, tehnologija, produktivnost... čini da sve manje priprostog rada treba. Znaci vise para u obrazovanje a manje u vojsku, pa da se narod obuci za rad u novim uslovima.”
Koje bre obrazovanje? Je li ti znaš koliko je svrsenih studenata bez posla? Je li ti znaš da se danas maltene svaki naucnicki posao,
istrazivanja i ostalo. može raditi u Aziji, osim naravno, ako nisi profesor americkim studentima.
„Nema tu niko , zemljace, da ti ”stvori poslove„ , tako da ni Ron Paul, ne može to.”
Pa ako ne može, zašto da se glasa BAS za njega, a ne nekog drugog?
Ako ne može (ili možda neće) onda je svejedno za koga glasati,
jer se on, dakle, ne razlikuje od drugih.
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veliki_stomak
2011-08-28 05:15 AM
StepaStepanovic, МРШ у 3ПМ глупо поштанско кљусе !!!
или си можда само неки провокатор, јере сумњам да си толико ретардиран.
то наравно није за оно глупо поштанско кљусе, већ за остале који нису провокатори и глупани (од човека постали мајмуни-Дарвинизам у суштини):
http://www1.serbiancafe.com/lat/diskusije/mesg/153/015597123/kamata.html?8
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veliki_stomak
2011-08-28 07:05 AM
а ако мисилиш да ћеш затрпати и разводнити тему; вараш се :
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A smaller share of men have jobs today than at any time since World War II
A smaller share of men have jobs today than at any time since World War II
A smaller share of men have jobs today than at any time since World War II
A smaller share of men have jobs today than at any time since World War II
A smaller share of men have jobs today than at any time since World War II
A smaller share of men have jobs today than at any time since World War II
A smaller share of men have jobs today than at any time since World War II
A smaller share of men have jobs today than at any time since World War II
A smaller share of men have jobs today than at any time since World War II
A smaller share of men have jobs today than at any time since World War II
A smaller share of men have jobs today than at any time since World War II
A smaller share of men have jobs today than at any time since World War II
A smaller share of men have jobs today than at any time since World War II
A smaller share of men have jobs today than at any time since World War II
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StepaStepanovic
(technician)
2011-08-28 08:47 AM
Debeli, pokazao si se, šta znaš. Psovanje ti vidim ide od ruke. Toliko.
@Alideda, reci ti meni kako ti i neki tvoj kandidat zamišljaju da „naprave” poslove, kako će „da vrate poslove iz Azije, kako će da zaposle 50 milina ljudi?
Nema problema, ako mislis da se ne moze ustedeti na bespotrebnom trosenju, ok. Do sada su takvi vladali pa evo gde idemo. Neću se sad raspravljati, niti znam nekog boljeg. Nije Ron, moj, dapace, voleo bi kad bi bio bolji kandidat od njega.
Jedno je sigurno, tonemo svi. Prošlo je već 10 godina, pa još 2 ovoga, pa verovatno još 4 na nekog malo drukcije istog. A videcemo dokle ćemo doći za jedno 6 godina. Sve ukupno je oko 20 g, sto je trecina ljudskog zivota. ”
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santabarbara
(Penzioner)
2011-08-28 10:31 AM
- Možda vredi procitati?
Vise je vredno razumeti..., pa ko voli, nek izvoli!
http://tinyurl.com/3emggaz
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Amatercic
(Penzioner)
2011-08-28 12:16 PM
Stepo
Prvi predsednik za koga sam glasao je Nixon-zadnji izbori Ron Paul inače sam voleo još par njih Ross Perot i slični da ne nabrajam.
Inače sam imao priliku da sretnem dosta njih (kandidata) i onih za koje nikad ni u snu nebi glasao iz razloga kao i svi drugi koji su se sretali sa raznim kandidatima.Usa je bolesna i kako joj pomoći ne znam, ali sigurno nije način na koji jedan profesor (top 20 u Usa)ekonomije predlaze da se ulaze u Kinu i da treba još vise da uvozimo. Infrastruktura Usa je stara preko pola veka, putevi, mostovi, vodovodi itd.to će placati porezi iz Kine? Spustajuci lestvicu da je svko može preskociti ne donosi ništa dobro a to demosi rade po mom mišljenju koje nije i ne mora biti zakon.Kad se izabere covek za presednika bez radnog iskustva a njegov protu kandidat je gori od toga šta onda reci?
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StepaStepanovic
(technician)
2011-08-28 12:47 PM
The Pentagon spends more on war than all 50 states combined spend on health, education, welfare, and safety.
Pa kad je još bespotrebno i stetno trosenje, tu je problem. Naravno da nije na državi da ona ulaze u privredu, posebno u Kinu. Ona treba da stvori uslove, da koliko god može ukine korupciju. Eventualno da merama carine zastiti domaću privredu. Pokazali su da državna intervencija može samo na kratko pomoći, tako što će privatna dugovanja raspodeliti da svi placamo. Naravno, ne pitajuci nas da li mi to hoćemo. Time doprinosi samo rastu inflacije.
Ne kažem, da ćemo (najmanje mi ) mi ovde naći rešenje.
Znam da ste svi besni, razocarani, izigrani, da vidite samo propast kod svih. I bogati su postali oprezni, vide i oni da je „vrag odneo salu”
Ja ovde nisam video da iko ima ikakvo rešenje. A nisam video ni da argumentovano kritikuju ideju pre svea stednj na ukidanju vojnog budzeta...
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Alideda
(i cetries' 'ajduka)
2011-08-28 02:40 PM
Stepo
Nemoj da se zavaravas.
Kina je danas prilično rezervisan americki ekonomski prijatelj,
a sutra može biti najveci vojni neprijatelj.
Kako onda da se smanji vojni budzet?!
Ja sam već napisao šta je rešenje.
Polako vracati poslove iz Azije u Ameriku i stimulisati lokalnu
ekonomiju. A kako? Jednostavno, oporezovati profite koji se ostvaruju
na razlici u ceni rada, tako da se izvoz poslova u Aziju s te strane ne
isplati. Time će se automatski puniti državna kasa, jer vise poslova
u USA znaci vise para od poreza u državnoj kasi.
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santabarbara
(Penzioner)
2011-08-28 03:38 PM
Ma nije u pitanju 'zavaravanje' Deda, koliko je u pitanju poturanje politicko motivisanog navodjenja vode na vodenicu, tj. unwavering libertarian idealism iz razloga ne samo rep. desnicarima poznatim, već i ostalim 'mislecim' glasacima (naravno sa razlicitim vidjenjem iz dosadasnjeg iskustva)!
Vise je nego naivno ocekivati od rep. partijskih mocnika koji po svaku cenu nastoje zastititi Bush-ove poreske olaksice (na ustrb poreskih obveznika), zadrzati i dalje vojnu industriju u granicama kao i do sada, i dalje stimulisati odliv poslova iz USA kroz razne poreske olaksice i malverzacije, i ... (pametnom dosta navedeno)!
Dok se bas niko nije 'usrecio' sa demokratima, mnogo vise se ojadilo sa Bush-em i njegovim rep. pobornicima za koje će trebati daleko vise nego jedna ili dve predsednicke generacije da se dodje do vidnijih resultata na bolje.
U međuvremenu, pred nama je manje ili vece zlo, zato, po ovdasnjem; vote your conscious!
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StepaStepanovic
(technician)
2011-08-28 07:41 PM
Šta to može da uradi Kina?
Ako tako mislite, da se ne moze smanjivati vojni budzet, onda nek nam je bog u pomoći.
Ako je ljudima vaznije da li će Tibet da bude samostalan, Kosovo, Republika Srpska... nego kako će da žive, da li će da im vlada kriminal, da li će ikad moći da se izdignu iz siromastva... onda ok. Vecina pobedjuje, samo se plasim da će kongres i predstavnicki dom uvek biti u ravnotezi i time paralisano bilo kakvo donosenje odluka.
To za oporezivanje na razlici u ceni rada, deluje ok. Ko će da to sprovede, koja je cena rada u Americi? Mogu da se kladim da recimo neko otvori ovde fabriku cipela ( npr. ) biće radnika koji će da rade i za 5$/h. Još malo ove stravicne krize i sami će se vratiti. A onda je pitanje obecane zemlje i koliko će ljudi želeti da živi ovde... I tako u krug...
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veliki_stomak
2011-08-29 04:33 AM
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A smaller share of men have jobs today than at any time since World War II
A smaller share of men have jobs today than at any time since World War II
A smaller share of men have jobs today than at any time since World War II
A smaller share of men have jobs today than at any time since World War II
A smaller share of men have jobs today than at any time since World War II
A smaller share of men have jobs today than at any time since World War II
A smaller share of men have jobs today than at any time since World War II
A smaller share of men have jobs today than at any time since World War II
A smaller share of men have jobs today than at any time since World War II
A smaller share of men have jobs today than at any time since World War II
A smaller share of men have jobs today than at any time since World War II
A smaller share of men have jobs today than at any time since World War II
A smaller share of men have jobs today than at any time since World War II
A smaller share of men have jobs today than at any time since World War II
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