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Pitanje u vezi konopljinog ulja
SOFI
(kuvarica)
2013-12-12 11:22 AM
Po preporuci sam dobila konopljino ulje da pijem.

Pošto koristim razredjivace za krv warfarin, pa me

interesuje da li je neko ko koristi te ljekove pio ulje.

Ako je neko od vas imao ovo iskustvo molila bih vas da

se javite.
Hvala
Trocki
(permanentna revolucija)
2013-12-12 05:00 PM
Poštovana Šefice,

zasigurno neće nikakvi preparati konoplje sa ma kojih
geografskih širina omesti posao antikoagulanasa koje uzimate.

Znači, ako se radi o najobičnijem ulju iz semenki konoplje, nemojte
ga piti već ga upotrebite, kao što bi bilo koje kvalitetno
organsko ulje upotrebili. (Možete i da ispržite pomfrit na njemu,
možete i da ispohujete svinjske krmenadle ili pileći
karabatak - ama nije ekonomski opravdano! ) , znači za salatu !

Piti ulje od konoplje (da se razumemo, ceđeno ulje od
semenki konoplje „ Cannabis sativa ” ) možda doprinese
redovnijoj stolici. Da se popije ujutro , uz kašiku meda
i zalije mlakom vodom...
Ima dosta ljudi koji ne mogu da podnesu ukus maslinovog ulja, te
je to sasvim opravdano ovde.

Za jača farmakološka dejstva treba i jači preparati.
Gde baš sad krenuše da 'apse ove dilere skanka i travuljine.
Ne znam šta da preporučim.
Svakako ne bih ikome preporučio da izbroji cca 1200 EUR za
sumnjivu vazelinsku tvorevinu nastalu u kuhinji tromedje (CG, Sandžak Srbija, ili , nedajbože, Albanija - Makedonija - Srbija...

Ukratko, zna se za šta služi evropska konoplja (za niti, kanape, gruba pletiva. Da i njeno seme kao hrana za papagaje), a
za šta služi indijska konoplja (a odavno se zna i kako se koristi),
ne bih da trošim prostor, mada moram priznati da u onkologiji ima veoma, veoma istaknuto i opravdano mesto.

a za salatu...
Ima toliko mnogo ukusnijih ulja

Trocki
(permanentna revolucija)
2013-12-12 05:07 PM
Sad sam veoma ozbiljan:

Nikakvo ulje, ikakve konoplje neće doći u interakciju
sa kumarinskim antikoagulansima.
Međutim... ne lezi Vraže ima i ovo :

„Ann Pharmacother. 2009 Jul;43(7):1347-53. doi: 10.1345/aph.1M064. Epub 2009 Jun 16.
Probable interaction between warfarin and marijuana smoking.
Yamreudeewong W, Wong HK, Brausch LM, Pulley KR.
Source
School of Pharmacy, University of Wyoming, Cheyenne, WY, USA. [email protected]
Abstract
OBJECTIVE:
To report a probable interaction between warfarin and marijuana smoking, resulting in increased international normalized ratio (INR) values and bleeding complications.
CASE SUMMARY:
A 56-year-old white male had been receiving chronic warfarin therapy for 11 years after mechanical heart valve replacement. He was admitted to the hospital with a diagnosis of upper gastrointestinal bleeding. Upon admission, his INR value was supratherapeutic at 10.41, and his hemoglobin level was 6.6 g/dL. He received 4 units of fresh frozen plasma and one 10-mg dose of oral vitamin K; his INR was 1.8 the next day. He was discharged 7 days after admission. Fifteen days after hospital discharge, he was readmitted with a constant nosebleed and increased bruising. His INR value was 11.55. After treatment, he was discharged with an INR value of 1.14. The patient smoked marijuana more frequently throughout the period of these 2 hospitalizations due to his depression. He was counseled by the pharmacist on the potential interaction of warfarin and marijuana. The patient decided to stop smoking marijuana after the third counseling session. During the 9 months that he did not smoke marijuana, his INR values ranged from 1.08 to 4.40 with no significant bleeding complications.
DISCUSSION:
Marijuana may increase warfarin anticoagulant effect by inhibiting its metabolism, and to a lesser extent, displacing warfarin from protein-binding sites. Other causes (eg, nonadherence) of the patient's increased INR were ruled out. Using the Horn Drug Interaction Probability Scale, our patient's warfarinmarijuana interaction appeared to be probable.
CONCLUSIONS:
To our knowledge, there have been no other reported cases of warfarin-marijuana interaction. While more clinical reports would be useful to confirm this interaction, clinicians should be aware of its probability so as to manage patients appropriately. ”

E sad, em što to nije ulje, em što ja smatram ovaj stručni
članak kao golo s...

SOFI
(kuvarica)
2013-12-13 08:20 AM
Hvala sto ste se javili, procitala sam i drugi clanak

pa vidjecemo, nadam se da će se javiti neko ko je ima direktno iskustvo.
Ja ću da koristim Kanadsko ulje.

Hvala vam na vasem vremenu i trudu, Pozdrav
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