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stef
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22. фебруар 2011. у 10.01
jel zna neko nekoga u Torontu ko zna da uradi porez za mene ?
( taksista - covek koji radi TAKS return :)
( sad će Orisni da se zabezekne, ali se ne može vise izbeci, moram da nađemprofesionalca)
elem..
imam oko 300 trades .. uglavnom opcije, pomalo akcije,
i imam full time posao.
Koga god pitam , nije nikad čuo za opcije, a za akcije nije teško.
Ili to radite sami sa nekim od onih programa ili na netu?
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Profesor-Kanada
(Profesor)
22. фебруар 2011. у 15.48
Stef, najbolje je da to lično uradis. Pogledaj obrazac/schedule #3
u poreskin formama. Koristi Excel i sacuvaces priličnu sumu novca.
No./ Name/ DB/ Proceeds(Bruto) - ACB - O & E = Gain or (Loss)
****************************************************************
No. = Number of shares or options
Name = Name of company ili options
DB = Date bought
ABC = Adjusted cost base ( kupovna cena + comm.)
O & E = Outlays and expenses (Commission paid when sold)
Primer:
I) 10/CIBC Oct 66 put/Apr 12/1,900.00- 1,600.00 - 25.00 = $275.00
II) 100/Bell Cda/May 11/98/ 2,980.00 - 2,550.00 - 10.00 = $420.00
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dividenda
(radnik udarnik)
22. фебруар 2011. у 20.43
Nemam nikakvog iskustva s opcijama)
Ako nisi već vidio...
Na financialwebring.org forumu ,pod taxing situations ima tema tax treatment:covered calls,naked puts.. i ima par linkova na stranice gdje se objašnjava kako se šta tretira kod takse..
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Profesor-Kanada
(Profesor)
22. фебруар 2011. у 22.54
Tax treatment of income from investments in CALL and PUT options
Income Tax Act S. 49
For most people, the gains and losses from options are taxed as CAPITAL GAINS (on capital account). However, if you are in the business of buying and selling stock, then your gains and losses from options will be treated as INCOME.
Gains or losses realized by a writer (seller) of naked (uncovered) options are normally treated as income. However, according to IT-479R, paragraph 25(c), CRA will allow these to be treated as capital gains, provided this practice is followed consistently from year to year.
For taxpayers who record gains and losses from options as income, the income from options sold (written) is reported in the tax year in which the options expire, or are exercised or bought back. When call options are purchased and subsequently exercised, the cost of the options is added to the cost base of the purchased shares. If the call options are not exercised, the cost is deducted in the tax year in which the options expire. If the call options are closed out by selling them, the proceeds are included in income, and the original cost is written off, in the tax year in which the options are closed out. When put options are purchased, the cost is written off in the year in which the options expire, are exercised, or are closed out by selling them.
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dividenda
(radnik udarnik)
23. фебруар 2011. у 11.08
Najbolje će biti da se to izgleda prepusti (tax)profesionalcu.
Paragraf za Capital account(ono gore je bilo za income(accont),ako se time bavis kao poslom,i sve se tretira kao income.Vecina ljudi prijavljuje CAPITAL account)
For taxpayers who record gains and losses from options as capital gains, the timing is a little trickier for options which have been sold. The following table shows the timing of the recording of gains and losses on options that have been sold or purchased. This table has been prepared based on the information in the CRA interpretation bulletin IT-479R Transactions in securities.
Option type Event
Proceeds reported for tax purposes
Treatment when options are sold:
Calls expired capital gain at time calls are sold
bought back to close capital gain at time calls are sold, and buy-back costs recorded as capital loss at time of buy-back
exercised capital gain at time of exercise (added to proceeds from sale of shares)
Puts expired capital gain at time puts are sold
bought back to close capital gain at time puts are sold, and buy-back costs recorded as capital loss at time of buy-back
exercised no capital gain - at time of exercise, proceeds deducted from cost basis of shares purchased
Treatment when options are purchased:
Calls expired capital loss at time of expiry
sold to close net gain or loss on purchase and sale recorded as capital gain or loss at time options sold to close
exercised no capital loss - at time of exercise, cost is added to cost basis of shares purchased
Puts expired capital loss at time of expiry
sold to close net gain or loss on purchase and sale recorded as capital gain or loss at time options sold to close
exercised at time of exercise, cost is used to reduce the proceeds from the sale of shares
As you can see in the table, when call and put options sold are being recorded as capital gains, the gain is recorded in the taxation year in which the options are sold. However, if the options are then exercised in the next taxation year, the capital gain from the previous year must be reversed, and either added to the proceeds from the sale of shares (call option), or deducted from the cost basis of shares purchased (put option). To revise the capital gains from the previous year, a T1Adj would have to be filed. See our article on changing your tax return after it has been filed.
Usually, the taxpayer would benefit from filing the T1Adj. However, if the amount is not significant, and if a tax preparer is being paid to do the taxes, there may be little benefit to filing the T1Adj. The only problem is that the Income Tax Act requires the options proceeds to either be added to the proceeds from the sale of shares (call option), or deducted from the cost basis of shares purchased (put option) when the option is exercised. This applies even if the proceeds were taxed in a previous year, and no T1Adj was filed to reverse this. Therefore, double taxation will occur if the T1Adj is not filed.
We traded options for about a decade, and in the end finally decided to quit, because
there was too much recordkeeping to be done
we always had to keep on top of whether the stocks were close to exercise price
when we used a full-service broker, it seemed we would be warned before anything was exercised and that we could have some input, but once we used a discount brokerage options would be exercised without warning, and we would find out after the fact.
it was impossible to quantify true gains and losses, it certainly didn't seem worth all the effort we put into it
Tax Tip: Leave option-trading to the professionals.
Revised: November 05, 2010
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