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Kur’an i nauka
limun52
(hvatac kometa)
29. март 2010. у 16.07
Ko je obrisao moju temu?

Sura 22. Al-Hagg - Hadž
65. Zar ne vidiš da je Allah sve što je na Zemlji vama podredio (da se služite) ...

Kur’an i nauka

Pa zašto oni ne pogledaju kamile - kako su stovrene, i nebo - kako je uzdignuto, i planine - kako su postavljene, i Zemlju - kako je prostrana?!„ [Kur’an 88:17-20]
Ili zatim: ”U stvaranju nebesa i Zemlje i u izmjeni noćii dana su, zaista, znamenija za razumom obdarene„ [Kur’an 3:190]

U 750 ajeta (skoro osmina Kur’ana), Kur’an ohrabruje vjernike da proucavaju prirodu, da razmišljaju, da bolje koriste razum u svom traganju za apsolutnim i da od sticanja spoznaje i naucnog razumijevanje stvaraju element zivota u zajednici.
Poslanik (sallallahu alejhi ve-selem) je insistirao na cinjenici da je trazenje znanja i nauke obavez za svakog muslimana, muskarca i ženu. Tu je prva premisa naučne spoznaje, na kojoj se mora zasnivati svako temeljno razmišljanje u islamu.

Druga premisa, koju je rjecito razvio dr. Maurcie Baucaille u svom esaju ”Biblija, Kur’an i nauka„, jeste da nijedan ajet u Kur’anu, koji opisuje prirodne pojave, ne protivrijeci onom sto su nas naucna otkrica naucila sa sigurnoscu.
Treca premisa: u historiji islama, nema slučaja poput Galilejevog. Ipak, i danas se nastavlja sa osudjivanjem i ekskomuniciranjem (takfir) zbog doktrinarnih razloga, ali ne direktno, po mom saznanju, zbog naučnih mišljenja.

Paradoksalno je, uostalom, sto su prvu inkviziciju u islamu (mihna) ustanovili ne pravovjerni teolozi, već oni sto ih nazivaju racionalistima, Mu’tazilije, koji - na to vrijedi podsjetiti - i sami bijahu teolozi, ali su se trsili da razumom budu muslimani.
Ahmed Ibn Hanbal je bio jedna od zrtava njihovog netolerantnog ludila.

Izvor: http://www.kuraninauka.com/archives/152#more-152”
lesselier
(zeza)
29. март 2010. у 17.03
Maurice Bucaille - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Bucaille
freelances
(slobodan strelac)
29. март 2010. у 19.00
Šta kaže nauka, za šta je dobro sok od limuna ?
kipe
(inzinjer)
29. март 2010. у 19.16
limun52
(hvatac kometa)29. mart 2010. u 16.07Ko je obrisao moju temu?

Sura 22. Al-Hagg - Hadž
65. Zar ne vidiš da je Allah sve što je na Zemlji vama podredio (da se služite) ...

Kur’an i nauka
_____________________________________________________________________

ZAR OVO NIJE ZALOSNO DA ZALOSNIJE Ne moze BITI,

KURAN NEDOPUSTA MUSLIMANIMA DA POSTAVLJAJU PITANJA O ISPRAVNOSTI

KURANA, NEGO SE KURAN MORA PRIHVATAT KAO APSOLUTNA ISTINA,

A SVAKO NEGIRANJE KURANA SE KAZNJAVA SMRCU.
pravda_i_istina
29. март 2010. у 21.03
bese, nastali ste od ugruska?
pravda_i_istina
30. март 2010. у 00.02
Poslanik (sallallahu alejhi ve-selem) je insistirao na cinjenici da je trazenje znanja i nauke obavez za svakog muslimana, muskarca i ženu.

========aha, znaci zato su vodeci svetski naucnici upravo muslimani:)) vi ste bre retardi, a ne naucnici
radogost18
(ing)
30. март 2010. у 02.39

Da sperma nastaje u kičmi a djeca se stvaraju od ugruška krvi!
Pljuni me u lice ako i kromanjonci nisu znali da sperma dolazi iz muških jaja a da djeca dolaze spojom sperme i ženskog ugruška!
pravda_i_istina
30. март 2010. у 03.50
ma neko je puno pasao travu, pa akumulirao mnogo vitamina k neophodnog za ejakulaciju, pardon koagulaciju
bayernfc
(Sve)
30. март 2010. у 05.26
ZAR OVO NIJE ZALOSNO DA ZALOSNIJE Ne može BITI,

KURAN NEDOPUSTA MUSLIMANIMA DA POSTAVLJAJU PITANJA O ISPRAVNOSTI

KURANA, NEGO SE KURAN MORA PRIHVATAT KAO APSOLUTNA ISTINA,

A SVAKO NEGIRANJE KURANA SE KAZNJAVA SMRCU.

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opet kipe sa svojim poremecenim idejama...

Gdje stoji SMRCU???

koliko ima ljudi danas sto iznose laz o Kuranu ...????
Na milionima, znaci davno bi trebao biti rat objavljen kjafirima...

Kipe umereces u mrznji...
lesselier
(zeza)
30. март 2010. у 06.09
Za pravda i istina alijas Pobunjenik, Kipe i gos`n deistu:

Dr. Joe Leigh Simpson is the Chairman of the Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Professor of Obstetrics and Gynecology, and Professor of Molecular and Human Genetics at the Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Texas, USA. Formerly, he was Professor of Ob-Gyn and the Chairman of the Department of Ob-Gyn at the University of Tennessee, Memphis, Tennessee, USA. He was also the President of the American Fertility Society. He has received many awards, including the Association of Professors of Obstetrics and Gynecology Public Recognition Award in 1992. Professor Simpson studied the following two sayings of the Prophet Muhammad:

„In every one of you, all components of your creation are collected together in your mother’s womb by forty days...”

„If forty-two nights have passed over the embryo, God sends an angel to it, who shapes it and creates its hearing, vision, skin, flesh, and bones...”

He studied these two sayings of the Prophet Muhammad extensively, noting that the first forty days constitute a clearly distinguishable stage of embryo-genesis. He was particularly impressed by the absolute precision and accuracy of those sayings of the Prophet Muhammad. Then, during one conference, he gave the following opinion:

„So that the two hadeeths (the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad) that have been noted provide us with a specific time table for the main embryological development before forty days. Again, the point has been made, I think, repeatedly by other speakers this morning: these hadeeths could not have been obtained on the basis of the scientific knowledge that was available [at] the time of their writing . . . . It follows, I think, that not only there is no conflict between genetics and religion but, in fact, religion can guide science by adding revelation to some of the traditional scientific approaches, that there exist statements in the Quran shown centuries later to be valid, which support knowledge in the Quran having been derived from God.”
lesselier
(zeza)
30. март 2010. у 06.19
Dr. E. Marshall Johnson - Dr. E. Marshall Johnson is Professor Emeritus of Anatomy and Developmental Biology at Thomas Jefferson University, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epyivDysOEM
lesselier
(zeza)
30. март 2010. у 06.27
Dr. Gerald C. Goeringer - Gerald C. Goeringer, is a professor and Co-ordinator of Medical Embryology in the Department of Cell Biology, School of Medicine, Georgetown University, Washington DC, USA.

said:

„… In a relatively few ayahs (Qur’ânic verses) is contained a rather comprehensive description of human development from the time of commingling of the gametes through organogenesis. No such distinct and complete record of human development such as classification, terminalogy, and description existed previously. In most, if not all instances, this description antedates by many centuries the recording of the various stages of human embryonic and fetal developmet recorded in the traditional scientific litterature.”

Video za bolesne skeptike:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO1h6iGMqFA
lesselier
(zeza)
30. март 2010. у 06.33
Dr. Keith. L. Moore

Keith L. Moore is a professor emeritus in the division of anatomy (department of surgery), former Chair of anatomy from 1974 to 1984[1] and associate dean for Basic Medical Sciences (Faculty of Medicine) at the University of Toronto, Ontario, Canada. He has also worked at the King Abdulaziz University in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Moreover, he is a founding member of the American Association of Clinical Anatomists (AACA). He was President of the AACA between 1989 and 1991[2]. He is most known for his textbooks on the subjects of anatomy and human embryology.

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_L._Moore

Dr. Keith Moore o naučnim cinjenicama u Kuranu Casnom:

video za najokorelije:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSvR_2rMjso&feature=related
lesselier
(zeza)
30. март 2010. у 06.48
Professor PhD. Alfred Kroner:

Professor Alfred Kröner (8 September 1939 in Kassel, Germany ) is a Professor of Geology at Johannes Gutenberg University of Mainz in Mainz, Germany. He specializes in the pre-Cambrian geology of Africa.

The American Journal of Science, published by Yale University, in dedicating a special issue to him on his 60th birthday, [1] said that it was celebrated with a symposium in Mainz. It was here at the Johannes Gutenberg-University that Alfred was appointed full Professor of Geology in 1977. Since then ... he continues to conduct his activities over several continents as a truly cosmopolitan geoscientist of overwhelming efficiency, recognized and appreciated worldwide in the Geoscience community.

Alfred Kroner o Kuranu:

„Wenn man bedenkt, woher Mohammed kam, denke ich, es ist fast unmöglich, dass er Dinge wie den Ursprung des Universums, kennen konnte, weil Wissenschaftler erst in den letzten Jahren mit sehr komplizierten und fortgeschrittenen technologischen Methoden, herausgefunden haben, dass es so ist.”

((Prevod: Ako se uzme u obzir odakle je bio Muhammed, mislim da je nemoguće da on stvari kao poreklo univerzuma poznaje, zato što su naucnici tek poslednjih godina veoma komplikovanim, naprednim, naučnim i tehnoloskim metodama otkrili da je tako.))

„Jemand, der nichts über nukleare Physik weiß, konnte nicht vor 1400 Jahren, denke ich, in der Lage sein, nur mit seinem Geist herauszufinden, dass z.B. die Erde und Himmel denselben Ursprung haben oder viele andere Fragen, die wir hier diskutiert haben…

((Neko ko ništa ne zna o nuklearnoj fizicinije mogao da pre 1400 godina duhovno bude u stanju da otkrije da npr. Zemlja i nebo imaju isto poreklo...))

Wenn man all dies vereint und dazu die Aussagen nimmt, die im Koran bezüglich der Erde, der Bildung der Erde und Wissenschaft im Allgemeinen gemacht werden, kann man grundlegend sagen, dass die dort getroffenen Aussagen in vielerlei Hinsicht wahr sind. Sie können jetzt durch wissenschaftliche Methoden bestätigt werden und zwar so, dass man sagen kann, der Koran ist ein einfaches Wissenschaftsbuch für den einfachen Mann. Und dass viele Aussagen, die darin gemacht werden zu dieser Zeit nicht geprüft werden konnten, aber dass moderne wissenschaftliche Methoden nun in der Lange sind, zu beweisen, was Mohammed vor 1400 Jahren sagte.”

Za one koji ne znaju ništa drugo do da se rugaju-video kao dokaz:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdrphWOTVb4
lesselier
(zeza)
30. март 2010. у 06.55
Postoji još stotine naucnika-eksperata u svojoj oblasti koji tvrde jedno te isto.
Postoje video i audio zapisi njihovih izjava.
Mnogi od njih su prihvatili Islam.

Zasada ću vas ostaviti da ovo prokomentarisete.

REGULUS_GAVRILO
(Signal from Heaven)
30. март 2010. у 07.12
зезо,

благо си га вама, направисте од једног педофила, шизофреничара, садисту и насилника, једног великог научника, онај Анштеијн и остали умови попут њега, могу да се баце у септичку јаму.

Искрено,

читао сам куран, али не могу да будем толки ћуран..попут вас, јер чим почнем да га читам..одма ме нешто тера да бијем и презирем зреле жене, истовремено палим на малу децу, а све оно што не уради пет намаза дневно, би да кољем.

поз.
limun52
(hvatac kometa)
30. март 2010. у 09.25
„========aha, znaci zato su vodeci svetski naucnici upravo muslimani:)) vi ste bre retardi, a ne naucnici”

upravo bas tako, raspitaj se malo o tim ljudima videces saM.
a pogotovo kuran nam govori o jevrejskim naucnicima.
zašto bi albert ajnstajn rekao da oseca (allahu ekber-allah je najveci) ono sto muslimani osecaju?
zatosto to samo jedan musliman može da oseti i da kaže.

4.162 Ali onima među njima (jevrejima>) koji su u nauku sasvim upućeni, i pravim vjernicima - oni vjeruju u ono što se objavljuje tebi i u ono što je objavljeno prije tebe - naročito onima koji molitvu obavljaju i onima koji zekat daju i u Allaha i u onaj svijet vjeruju - njima ćemo, sigurno, veliku nagradu dati.

ajnstajn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it4fy494uKg
limun52
(hvatac kometa)
30. март 2010. у 09.34
to je bila 4. sura.

a u 3. suri se spominje ponovo nauka.
to je sura imran, imran je bila marijina/isusova prodica.
sura imran opisuje uglavnom sljedbenike isusa a ispred nje bakara/krava jevreje obozavaoci teleta. ovaj ajet se odnosi uglavnom na naucnike iz hrišćanstva koji su kasnije presli na islam i na sve druge naucnike koji su već bili u islamu. muslimani su bili oni koji su zapoceli modernu nauku a muslimani konvertiti su je zavrsili.
ne postoji drugi ajet u kuranu gde govori o nauci barem koliko ja znam.

2:7. On tebi objavljuje Knjigu, u njoj su ajeti jasni, oni su glavnina Knjige, a drugi su manje jasni. Oni čija su srca pokvarena - željni smutnje i svog tumačenja - slijede one što su manje jasni. A tumačenje njihovo zna samo Allah. Oni koji su dobro u nauku upućeni govore: „Mi vjerujemo u njih, sve je od Gospodara našeg!” - A samo razumom obdareni shvaćaju.
limun52
(hvatac kometa)
30. март 2010. у 09.38
3:7. On tebi objavljuje Knjigu, u njoj su ajeti jasni, oni su glavnina Knjige, a drugi su manje jasni. Oni čija su srca pokvarena - željni smutnje i svog tumačenja - slijede one što su manje jasni. A tumačenje njihovo zna samo Allah. Oni koji su dobro u nauku upućeni govore: „Mi vjerujemo u njih, sve je od Gospodara našeg!” - A samo razumom obdareni shvaćaju.
limun52
(hvatac kometa)
30. март 2010. у 09.43
„Da sperma nastaje u kičmi a djeca se stvaraju od ugruška krvi!
Pljuni me u lice ako i kromanjonci nisu znali da sperma dolazi iz muških jaja a da djeca dolaze spojom sperme i ženskog ugruška!”

dete nastaje od muske ili zenske sperme. zato su jevreji odbili isusa govorivsi da nije od davuda a marija je od davuda. a ugrusak je embrio.
lesselier
(zeza)
30. март 2010. у 15.02
благо си га вама, направисте од једног педофила, шизофреничара, садисту и насилника, једног великог научника,

Vilkomen Gavrane,

Vidim da si se opet pojavio i kao po pravilu sve teme preskocio i usredsredio se na ovu kako bi provocirao, zar ne?

Prvo, niko od Muhammeda ne pravi ništa vise od onoga sto je on bio.
On je bio covek od krvi i mesa, a ne Bog.
Nije znao citati i pisati, ali sada sve ovo nije ni bitno.
Bitno je da si ti tu i da provociras.
Koliko jedan um može biti bolestan da ignorise gorenavedene naučne cinjenice?
Kuran nije naucna knjiga, Kuran je Knjiga uputa, ali sadrzi cinjenice koje uz pomoć savremene nauke polako izlaze na videlo.

Uskoro dolazi još.
lesselier
(zeza)
30. март 2010. у 15.23
Dr. T.V.N. Persaud MD, PhD

is Professor and Former Head, Department of Human Anatomy and Cell Science, Professor of Pediatrics and Child Health, Professor of Obstetrics, Gynecology, and Reproductive Sciences, University of Manitoba, Faculty of Medicine; Consultant in Pathology and Clinical Genetics, Health Sciences Centre, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada.

http://daviespublishing.com/TVN-Persaud-MD-PhD-C139.aspx

Dr. T.V.N. Persaud o Kuranu:

He is the author or editor of 22 textbooks and has published over 180 scientific papers. In 1991, he received the most distinguished award presented in the field of anatomy in Canada, the J.C.B. Grant Award from the Canadian Association of Anatomists. Professor Persaud has included some Quranic verses and sayings of the Prophet Muhammad in some of his books - and presented these verses and sayings of the Prophet Muhammad at several conferences. When he was asked about the scientific miracles in the Quran which he has researched, he stated the following:

„...Muhammad .. could not read, didn’t know to write.- You have someone illiterate making profound pronouncements - amazingly accurate about scientific nature.[so] many accuracies - I have no difficulty in my mind that this is a divine inspiration or revelation which led him to these statements.”

Za one koji samo znaju provocirati video zapis njegove izjave:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRmvEVsqDkE
lesselier
(zeza)
30. март 2010. у 15.34
Professor Yushidi Kusan

is Director of the Tokyo Observatory, Tokyo, Japan.
He expressed his astonishment, saying that the Qur'an describes the universe as seen from the highest observation point, everything is distinct and clear.

„”I say, I am very much impressed by finding true astronomical facts in Qur'an, and for us modern astronomers have been studying very small piece of the universe. We have concentrated our efforts for understanding of very small part. Because by using telescopes, we can see only very few parts of the sky without thinking about the whole universe. So by reading Qur'an and by answering to the questions, I think I can find my future way for investigation of the universe.„”

Video Zapis:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly1YkGlhfA4
lesselier
(zeza)
30. март 2010. у 15.43
Professor Thomas P. Armstrong works for NASA and is also Professor of Astronomy, University of Kansas, Lawrence, Kansas, USA.

Prof. Armstrong was asked a number of questions about Qur'anic verses dealing with his field of specialisation. He was eventually asked, „You have seen and discovered for yourself the true nature of modern Astronomy by means of modern equipment, rockets, and satellites developed by man. You have also seen how the same facts were mentioned by the Qur'an fourteen centuries ago. So what is your opinion?”

„That is a difficult question which I have been thinking about since our discussion here. I am impressed at how remarkably some of the ancient writings seem to correspond to modern and recent Astronomy. I am not a sufficient scholar of human history to project myself completely and reliably into the circumstances that 1400 years ago would have prevailed.

Certainly, I would like to leave it at that, that what we have seen is remarkable, it may or may not admit of scientific explanation, there may well have to be something beyond what we understand as ordinary human experience to account for the writings that we have seen.”
Link za skeptike: http://www2.ku.edu/~kuspace/tpa.html

Video Zapis izjave:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8326356094692950756#

REGULUS_GAVRILO
(Signal from Heaven)
30. март 2010. у 19.01
И кога још заболе стојко а?

као да људи немају преча посла него да читају сатанистичке књиге попут курана.
pravda_i_istina
30. март 2010. у 20.00
lesi, ima raznih profesora, retarda isto KAO STO JE TAJ JEDAN JEDINI PRIMER KOJI NUDIS, ali NAUKA JE Nešto SASVIM DRUGO
pravda_i_istina
30. март 2010. у 20.20
kada govorimo o zacecu i embrionalnom ravoju... zato i kažem da si retard kada tvrdis ovo:

„a ugrusak je embrio.

koji naucnik to potvrdjuje ili koja nauka?
kakve veze ima astronomija sa ovim?
po cemu je kuran zasluzniji za astronomiju od npr. knjige enohove?
navedi, citiraj kuransku nauku, pa da vidimo koji ste retardi, ... ej od ugruska nastali.
”
von_Daniken
(pseudo-charlatan)
31. март 2010. у 05.18
nastavak, nauka i kuran

Some Cosmological Flaws: (Scientific contradictions)

(1) God created the Heaven first or, the Earth first (?)

Which one was created first? As you will see in the verses below, Allah at one time says that Earth was created first and another time He says that the Heaven was created first.

[Quran-2:29]: It is He who hath created for you all things that are on Earth; THEN He turned to the Heaven and made them into seven firmaments (Skies)….

[Quran- 79:27-30]: Are you the harder to create, or is the heaven that He built ? He raised the height thereof and ordered it; and He has made dark the night thereof, and He brought forth the morning thereof. And after that, He spread (flattened) the earth.

Now, does it match modern science? Do you believe that, Earth was created first, and after that, God created Heaven? Does modern science tell us that?

(2) Numerical contradictions

There are many numerical contradictions in the Quran. God cannot make an error in doing simple calculations.
How many days did it take to create Heavens and Earth?

Your guardian-Lord is Allah who created the heavens and earth in Six Days [Quran 7:54]

Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and earth in Six Days [Quran 10:3]

He it is Who created the heavens and earth in Six Days [Quran 11:7]

He Who created the heavens and earth and all that is between, in Six Days [Quran 25:59]

The above verses clearly state that God (Allah) created the heaven and the Earth in 6 days. But the verses below stated:

Is it that ye deny Him who created the earth in Two Days ? [Quran-41:9]

He set on the (earth) Mountains standing firm high above it, and bestowed blessing on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR DAYS… [(Quran- 41:10]

So He completed them (heavens) as seven firmaments in Two days and… [Quran-41:12]

Now do the math: 2 (for earth) + 4 (for nourishment) + 2 (for heavens) = 8 days; and not 6 days.

Inheritance laws of Allah [verses: 4:11-12 and 4:176]

Quran 4:11-12 and 4:176 state the Qur’anic inheritance law. When a man dies, and is leaving behind three daughters, his two parents and his wife, they will receive the respective shares of 2/3 for the 3 daughters together, 1/3 for the parents together [both according to verse 4:11] and 1/8 for the wife [4:12] which adds up to more than the available estate. A second example: A man leaves only his mother, his wife and two sisters, then they receive 1/3 [mother, 4:11], 1/4 [wife, 4:12] and 2/3 [the two sisters, 4:176], which again adds up to 15/12 of the available property.

In these verses above one can see the total property after adding all distributed parties adds up more than the available property, i.e., totals become more than 1 which are: 1.125 and 1.25. How come? A gross mathematical errors, is not it?

Let us examine Allah’s mathematical genius once more in different fashion:

Man dies leaving behind
Wife is1/8 = 3/24 (4:12)
Daughters 2/3 = 16/24 (4:176)
Father 1/6 = 4/24 (4:11)
Mother1/6 = 4/24(4:11)
Total = 27/24=1.125

Woman dies leaving no descendants or ascendants
Husband, (1/2) = 1/2 (4:12)
Brother (everything) = 2/2(4:176)
Total = 3/2 =1.5

Woman dies leaving no ascendants or descendants and no brother
Husband, (1/2) = 3/6 (4:12, 4:176)
Sister (1/2) = 3/6 (4:11)
Mother (1/3) = 2/6 (4:11)
Total = 8/6 =1.33

Man dies leaving behind:
Wife1/4 = 3/12 (4:12)
Mother 1/3 = 4/12 (4:11)
Sisters 2/3 = 8/12 ((4:176)
Total = 15/12 =1.25

Adding all distributed properties add up more than the available property, i.e., total becomes more than 1 which are: 1.125, 1.5, 1.33, and 1.25 respectively. Surely, Allah’s mathematics was really divine!!!

Allah’s Days Equal to 1000 Years or 50,000 Years (?)

Verily a day in the sight of the Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning. [Quran 22:47]

To Him, on a Day, the space whereof will be a thousands years of your reckoning [Quran 32:5]

The angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a day the measure whereof is Fifty thousands years. So, which one is it ? Is the day of Allah equal to 1,000 earth years or 50,000 earth years? [Quran-70:4]

(3) Fallacies on Sun-set and Sun-rise (?)

The Koran teaches us that the Sun sets in a muddy spring

„Till, when he (the traveller Zul-qarnain) reached the setting-place of the Sun, he found it going down into a muddy spring…” [Quran-18:86]

„Till, when he reached the rising-place of the Sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had appointed no shelter from it.” [Quran- 18:90]

There are serious scientific errors here. Firstly, it is scientifically accepted fact that, the Sun never goes down in a muddy spring or clear spring. Secondly, this seems to presuppose a FLAT Earth, otherwise how can there be an extreme point in the West or in the East? A sunrise there would be basically just the same as at any other place on this earth, at land or sea. It would still look as if it is setting „far away”. It does say, that he reached THE PLACE where the Sun sets and in his second Journey the place where it rises. Does any body need to go near rising or setting places to observe—sun-set or sun-rising?

(4) A resting place for Sun: (?)

Interestingly, wishful Mullahs claim that this resting place means the ultimate destruction of the Sun. Sorry, brothers you are dead wrong. Look what Quran says in the following Ayats:
And the sun runneth on his course for a period determined for him; that is the decree of (Him). That is the measuring of the Mighty, the Wise. [Quran-36:38]
And for the moon We have appointed mansions till she return like an old shriveled palm leaf. [Quran-36:39]
„It is not for Sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit.” (This they clearly meant for the Sun and Moon only). [Quran-36:40]

Maulana Yousuf Ali’s Tafsir:

„The Arabic word ”Mustaqarr„ may mean (1) a limit of time, a period determined or (2) a resting place or quiescence; (3) a dwelling place. I think, the first meaning (a time period determined) is best applicable here. But some commentators take the second (a resting place). In that case, the simile would be that of the SUN running a race while he is visible to us, and taking a rest during the night to prepare himself to renew his race the following day. His (SUN) stay with the antipodes appears to us as his period of rest.(page:1178, Sura-36,by Yousuf Ali)”

In the Ayat above (36:39), Quran tells us that, moon gradually changes its shape and eventually (till she return like an old shriveled palm leaf) becomes very thin (wear off Moon) like dried date leaf (crescent- shaped). Only Mullahs can tell us how much sciences are in this Ayat!
von_Daniken
(pseudo-charlatan)
31. март 2010. у 05.22
(5) A resting place for sun WAS CONFIRMED BY SAHI HADITHS

Sahih Bukhari Hadiths:

Abzur Ghifari (ra) narrated: one day Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) asked me, „Abzar do you know after setting where Sun goes?” I replied, I do not know, only Allah’s apostle can say better. Then Prophet (SA) replied, „After setting, the sun remains prostrated under Allah’s Aro’sh (Allah’s throne) and waits for Allah’s command for rising again in the East. Day will come when sun will not get any more permission from Allah to rise again and Qeyamot (dooms day) will fall upon earth.”

Please see page # 1133 of Bengali Translated Quran by Maulana Muhiuddin Khan to see this Hadiths for yourself. You can find this Hadith in Sahih Bukhari Sharif. The Saudi King selected Maulana Muhiuddin to Translate Quran and millions of translated Quran have been distributed throughout the whole world. And 100% of all Bangladeshi Mullahs/Karis/Hafezes believe them by their heart.

Can anybody tell me what is it? Can any Islam loving Brother tell us what is it? Does it tell us about the destroyed Sun after 15 Billions years later? Answer is a big NO! Fact is, it was the superstitious belief of ancient people reflected in the Quran and Hadiths by Allah. A 10 year old boy would not tell such fairy tale story today.

(6) Quran wonders why/how Sun and Moon do not collide/catch each other (?)

Above Quranic Ayat (36:40) is telling us that—Sun can not catch/overtake/collide with Moon; Or, Night can not oustrip the day, Or, darkness of Night is covered by Day light; and Day light is covered by Darkness of Night. By any means, Allah did not try to tell us about the SHAPE OF THE EARTH as some apologists want us to believe. This will be a ridiculous thinking. Allah actually wanted to tell us that, Night’s darkness is covered by Day-light and vice-versa. This observation does not take a divinity to determine. Any human being can see it clearly, even cave people observed it millions of years ago.

Quran told us lots of sciences here. Where is the sun and where is the moon situated? Can anybody tell me how they could collide/meet/overtake each other? Are the sun and moon neighbors to each other? If I walk in the streets of Dhaka, Bangladesh and my brother walks in the streets of Los Angeles, USA, shall we overtake/collide/catch each other?

Allah is indeed a great scientist. I have the answer for this error: Ancient people saw (bare eye observations) Sun and Moon traveling from east to west (and west to east) seemingly in the same Sky area or same path, yet they do not collide or catch each other and causing day and night etc. People in the 7th century hardly could imagine that all of these phenomena are simply due to Earth’s rotation and NOT by Sun’s rotation. Sun is stationary for Earth, because earth is stuck in the sun’s Gravity, like we are stuck in earth’ gravity. Quran never say any where in the whole Quran that, THE EARTH ROTATES. Quran maintained Geo-centric theory in every respect. Earth was considered center of the Universe. Perhaps Allah could not feel Earth’s rotation, because like humans Allah was also stuck with earth’s gravity. This Quranic verse below once more confirms that the EARTH is fixed and never moves.

Verily! Allâh grasps the heavens and the earth lest they move away from their places, and if they were to move away from their places, there is not one that could grasp them after Him. Truly, He is Ever Most Forbearing, Oft¬Forgiving. [Q 35:41]

Allah thought earth is fixed at the center of the universe and never moves. Allah never could feel that this tiny earth is rotating (moving) constantly around the sun! He also thought that there is something calls sky (like roof over the earth) which also never moves because Mighty Allah is holding it fixed with His Mighty hand! What a ludicrous thinking by Allah!

(7) Why Allah created Stars (?)

Quran gives us more scientific knowledge by telling us that the stars were created by Allah as missiles to throw at the devils:

Quran-67:5: And We have (from of old) adorned the lowest heaven (sky) with lamps, and We have made such (Lamps as) missiles to drive away Satans (Evils)…

Quran-37:6-8: We have indeed decorated the lower heaven (sky) with (in) the stars, (for beauty) and for guard against all obstinate rebellious Satans. So they should not strain their ears in the direction of the Exalted Assembly but be cast away from every side.

Thus, the stars are nothing but missiles to throw at devils so that they may not eavesdrop on the heavenly council. Heavenly council? Here Quran is actually talking/describing about falling (shooting) stars (Ulka, Dhumkathoo). Superstitious minds of Quran believed that the sky is the roof (seven firmaments) over the earth where kingdom of Allah situated and there in Allah’s kingdom daily assembly (Allah and His Angels) sits to discuss how to run Allah’s business on earth. So, Allah does not want Satan to listen Allah’s secret conversation with His Angels (readers please see page-1191of Maulan Yousuf ali’s Shanrnazul#. 4037-4038 for more interesting story about this). DOES THIS AGREE WITH MODERN SCIENCE?

(8) Seven heavens (seven firmaments (?)

He who created the seven heavens, one above the other….And We have adorned the lowest heaven with lamps… [Quran-67:3-5]

Do you not see how Allah has created the seven heavens one above the other, and made the moon a light in their midst, and made the Sun as a lamp. [Quran-71: 15-16]

And He completed the seven firmaments (heavens) in two days and assigned to each heaven its command; and We adorned the lower heaven with lamps (Sun), and rendered it guarded… [Quran- 41:12]

Quran teaches us that there are seven heavens one above the other (in layered; there are many sahi hadiths in support of this superstitious belief) and that the stars are in the lower heaven, but the moon is in the midst of the seven heavens. How come moon is furthest object than stars? How come SEVEN firmaments (layers)? Modern science tells us that, actually there is no such thing Sky or any roof over us, it is only a space with no known boundary at all. These verses simply reinforce the ancient idea of ROOF over us which is called SKY, is not it? We know very well the word CANOPY stands for a tent in the desert, and Canopy always must have a roof over it to protect from Sun’s heat.

My humble questions to the readers, please tell me how come Allah is telling us that He decorated lower heaven (Sky) by stars? Are stars situated at the lower sky? Modern science tells us that, stars are (most) furthest object from our solar system. Sun is the nearest star for us. Does Quran tell us that the SUN is also a star? Answer is a BIG NO. Allah says Sun is a lamp/torch for the earth. Am I right? Do you see how much science here?
von_Daniken
(pseudo-charlatan)
31. март 2010. у 05.25
(9) Sky/Heaven is hanging without pillars and Mountains are placed to prevent shaking (?)

The Quran says [31:10]:

He hath created the heavens (Skies) without supports (pillars) that ye can see, and hath cast into the earth firm Mountains/Hills, so that it quake not with you; and He hath dispersed…..

Modern science tells us- whole thing around the earth is space and there is no boundary even we go Billions of Trillions of miles in all direction. Questions are: When there is no sky above us then how in the world, question of pillars comes? What was the need of pillars? Do we really have a roof above us? Is there anything called above or bellow in true sense? Are mountains there to prevent earth from shaking? Readers can read a Sahi Bukhari Hadiths about Ascension of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) to heaven (Miraz story) where these seven skies (seven firmaments) have been well recognized and described.

(10) Why Mountains were created (?)

In the following verses, Quran claims that mountains were set on the earth so that the earth never can shake when human being dwelt in it.

And We have set on earth firm mountains, lest it should shake with them. [Quran- 21:31]

And he has cast the earth firm mountains lest it shake with you… [Quran-16:15]

He created the heavens without supports that you can see, and has cast onto the earth firm mountains lest it shake with you… [Quran-31:10]

It is clearly understood that Quranic author was completely ignorant about the geological reasoning for existence of mountains. He saw that mountains are huge and heavy. So, He (Allah) thought mountains actually prevent Shaking (Earthquake) of the earth. Fact is, this particular reason for existence of mountains is a direct contradiction with modern geological knowledge. Geology proves to us that movement of tectonic plates, or earthquake itself causes mountains to be formed. Besides, we know very well that, every year several dozens of earthquakes happen on earth. Then what is the result of Allah’s promise? Can we believe that, Mountains are there to prevent earthquake?

(11) Sun and moon rotates/travels (?)

Quran never said everything in the universe does move/rotates, but Quran always said SUN and MOON moves/travels. Quran never ever said that, the earth moves or travels. And this is an open challenge to all Mullahs to disprove my assertion. Like all other religious books, Holy Quran believed Geo-centric theory and earth was considered center of the Universe. Only recently, no more than two decades ago, scientists learned that Sun also moves through the galaxy taking all the Planets with it. Fact is Allah was not stating real Sun’s movement, (which is, just one circle of Solar galaxy by 226 millions of years) but He (God) was stating Sun’s daily movement which was believed for millions of years until Copernicans time. Allah’s assertion of „settled place” or „an appointed time” was about the daily Sun rise and Sun setting. Following verses will prove that very clearly:

„He created the heavens and the earth (in true proportions) ; He makes the Night overlap the Day, and the Day overlap the Night; He has subjected The Sun and Moon (to his law); each one follows a course for a time appointed.” Here each one clearly refers to Sun & Moon (in the previous sentence), and not everything in the Universe as wishful apologists claim. [Quran-39:5]

„Seest thou not that Allah merges Night into Day and He merges Day into Night; That He has subjected the sun and moon (to His law), each running its course for a term (time) appointed.” [Quran-31:29]

„It is He who created The Night and Day, And the Sun and Moon; each of them Swim (float) along in its own course.” [Quran-21: 33]

Ayats mentioned above could be found over and over, again and again almost in every other pages of Quran. Because, Quranic author, standing in the open Arab desert saw very well that, every morning SUN is rising from the East and gradually (appointed time or fixed time) setting to the West, and as a result, day and night follows. Allah truly mentioned this wrong knowledge (sun moving) of pre-historic people. Every time Allah mentioned sun & moon, He mentioned day & night, as if, it is due to sun’s movement day and night follows. Allah also saw, both the sun and moon are traveling seemingly at the same sky area and He was amazed how come they do not collide or how come sun can not catch moon(?) That was the sun’s movement Allah was talking about, which cave people could have said millions of years ago or a boy of five can say that very accurately. Is not it? Who does not see Sun’s movement from east to west?


Truth about Sun’s movement

Although, modern science believes that Sun also moves, Sun is considered stationary for earth in real/practical sense, because earth is stuck to the giant gravitation of the sun and continuously moves along with the sun wherever it goes, just the way we are stuck to earth’s gravity and do not feel earth’s movement at all. Yet science (people, not Allah) discovered that sun also moves, but what is the sun’s course? In real world, Sun takes about 226 million years to make just one complete circle through the Solar galaxy. And this movement of sun has nothing to do with DAY & NIGHT of the earth. Then, why Allah was telling almost in every pages of Quran: „ I compelled sun and moon to travel for fixed/appointed times (supposedly 12 hours daily) and day and night follows” Why? There was no valid reason why Allah would say again and again about the Sun’s final stage destruction (?) of „white dwarf”, as some unscrupulous Mullahs claimed. Could any body tell me exactly what relation does it (sun’s movement) have with day and night?

In Quran, Allah always tells about Day & Night whenever He says about sun & moon? What is the relation of movements of sun and moon with day and night? Is day and night follows because of sun’s movement? One certainly needs to wonder, why Allah has to mention hundreds of times, about sun’s 226 millions year journey (as some wishful apologists claim that) to tell about day and night? What relation sun’s movement has with the day and night? It is obvious that, Allah was telling sun’s daily movement from east to west which people believed for millions of years. But surprisingly, all the wishful apologists giving false credit to Allah by saying: look Quran told about sun’s movement 1400 years ago which modern science only found out now. These apologists asking us to believe that Allah actually mentioned Sun’s orbit of the Solar Universe. What a wishful distortion of the truth. In fact, Quran repeatedly mentioned about the following only: Sun, Moon, Stars, heavens (Sky) and earth. That’s all. Quran never mentioned even about other planets (Jupiter, Mars, Pluto etc.) Quran portrayed all those Planets as nearest stars.

Readers Please consider the following: (a) Sahi hadiths I gave about Sun’s rest under Allah’s Aroosh? (b) What relation day and night might have with the Sun’s single movement by 226 millions of years? (c) If Quran already has established Helio-centric cosmology (as some wishful Islamists claim) then why Arabic Mullahs did not come forward to save Copernicas, Leonardo Bruno, Galileo etc. from those Christian Mullahs?

12) Sky/Heaven is nothing but A ROOF or Canopy over the Earth (?)

The Quran says:

And We have made the sky a roof withheld (from them). Yet they turn away from its portents. [Quran-21:32

He hath created the heavens (Skies) without supports (pillars) that ye can see, and hath cast into the earth firm Mountains/Hills, so that it quake not with you; and He hath dispersed…[Quran-31:10]

And We have made the sky (heavens) as roof (canopy) well guarded… [Quran-21: 32]

Who has made the earth your couch, And the heavens (Sky) your canopy; [Quran-2: 22]

Modern science tells us- whole thing around the earth is space and there is no boundary even we go Billions of Trillions of miles in all direction. Questions are: When there is no sky above us then how in the world, question of pillars comes? Do we really have a roof above us? Is there a canopy (Shamiaa’na) above the earth? In most Bengali translated Quran all Maulanas writes: Allah akashke samiaana bannei-ese. Is there anything called above or below in true sense? This verse below even confirming the idea of ‘Canopy’ which has no holes/windows and it is like a sealed cap over the earth which is a „couch” for mankind.

(13) Allah foretold in the Quran that mankind will conquer space!

Source of this Islamic science is the verse below:

O ye assembly of Jinns and men! If it be Ye can pass beyond the zones of the heavens and the earth, pass ye! Not without authority shall ye be able to pass! [Q 55:33]

On several previous Ayats (preceding to this verse above) were full of cautions & threats to the unbelievers. Allah was cautioning that soon judgment day will come and nobody will be able to flee from the accountability of their misdeeds. Therefore, by this particular Ayat Allah actually challenging all unbelieving „Jins & Men” that nobody can escape death or judgment of Allah and nobody can escape from the boundary of Sky (heaven) and earth, the CANOPY OF ALLAH (readers please see page#1320 of Bengali translated Qur’an by Saudi King. You will be amazed how apologists have distorted/manipulated the actual notion of this Ayat). Here Allah is challenging Jins and Men that they can never go out of this boundary of earth & Sky („beyond the zones of the heavens and the earth”) without a special authority/power from god, which Jins and men do not possess. Literally, Allah proclaimed that Jins & men can not pierce the wall of this Allah’s Canopy. But, apologists are claiming that Allah actually told that, men can (?) conquer the space. Apologists virtually reversed the actual notion of this Ayat to claim that Quran foretold mankind’s conquest of space. What a wishful distortion of the Quranic verse by Islamists to gain science in Quran?

von_Daniken
(pseudo-charlatan)
31. март 2010. у 05.27
(14) Once again Allah considered sky as roof over the earth which will break/shatter on the dooms day (?)

And the heavens (sky) Shall be broken (opened) as if there were doors opens… [Quran 78:19]

When the Sky is cleft asunder [Quran-82:01]

And the sky will be Rent asunder, for it will That day be flimsy (soft) [Quran-69:16]

When the stars fall, losing their luster. [Quran-81:2]

Yousuf Ali comments in his Tafsir: beautiful blue sky overhead (which we take for granted in sunshine) will be shattered to pieces. Modern science tells us that there is no such thing as roof/sky or any canopy over the earth, rather all around earth is a limitless space. Only Allah knows what will break/shattered or will get soft/flimsy or how doors will open , there is no walls, where from doors will come? In some Ayats (Quranic verses) Allah threatened kafirs by saying: „I (Allah) will throw broken pieces of sky over your head.”

(15) Quran foretold about cosmic expansion of Big-bang theory!

Allah says:

And We have spread out the (spacious) earth: How excellently We do spread out! [Quran-51:48]

„With the power and skill did we construct the Firmament; for it is We Who create the vastness of space.” [Quran-51:47]

Have We not made the earth as a wide expanse, And the mountains as pegs (anchor)? [Quran-78: 6-7]

And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet); set thereon Mountains firm and immovable; [Quran-15:19]

Shune-nozul (Tafsir) by Maulana Yousuf Ali:

„The space in heavens above, Who can comprehend it but He Who made it sustains it. The globe of the earth under your feet, how great its expanse seems over sea and land, and spread out for you like a wonderful carpet or bed of rest.”

Now, does this match with space expansion of our universe according to the Big-bang theory? Certainly not. Quran never told that „Universe” is expanding; rather Allah talked about the unlimited open space between the Earth and the imaginary sky. And Allah also bragged that He made the earth wide and spacious. Allah was sure that earth is flat like a carpet and mountains are there to anchor the earth so that earth does not shake with us. Is there any modern science here? APOLOGISTS TRIED TO EXPLAIN THESE WORDS „EXPANSE” OR „SPEAD OUT” AS THE COSMIC EXPANSION OF THE UNIVERSE. This is a pure distortion of the actual intention of the Ayat.



(16) Big-Bang theory foretold in Quran!

Islamists by their ultra-wishful interpretations of the Quranic verse: 21:30 shamelessly and foolishly try to fool the gullible poor Muslims and some westerners that Holy Quran already told about Big-bang theory 1400 hundred years ago! Source of their weird claim is the verse below:

„Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?” [Quran-21:30, Yousuf Ali]

What Koran said was very simple. Earth and sky (heaven-a roof over head?) was separated by Allah and Allah is trying to take this credit! That means, Earth and Sky was already there and Allah by his mighty hands separated them? Which idiotic scientist has ever told this nonsense about Big-bang? Does the Big-bang theory really tells that, that earth and sky were already here and these two were just separated and some mad guys call it Big bang theory? This Bedouin Allah thought the so called Sky is a roof or canopy over the flat earth. Who does not know in the 21st century that the so called sky is nothing but space which has no boundary or limit? Actually, there is no such thing called sky; although, people still call it sky by sheer habit developed out of ignorance since ancient time. Question is, do we have any sky over our head? Answer is a Big No!

Folklores of separating Sky (a solid roof) from the flat earth existed in Arabia! Let us examine this verse below:

„Allah is He Who raised the heavens without any pillars that ye can see; is firmly established on the throne (of authority); He has subjected the sun and the moon (to his Law)! Each one runs (its course) for a term appointed. He doth regulate all affairs, explaining the signs in detail, that ye may believe with certainty in the meeting with your Lord.” [Quran-13:2, Yousuf Ali]

This verse above clearly depicted the existence of superstitious belief about Earth and sky in ancient Egypt. And very clearly (wrong perceptions of course) described how Allah appointed Sun and Moon to rotate over the fixed earth to cause day and night. In fact, the idea of this above Quranic verses was originated from superstitions commonly believed by Pagans in the Middle East. Such childish or simplistic idea that the heavens and earth were once joined and then separated by the activity of Gods and Goddesses was actually derived from the ancient belief that sky they saw above their heads is a solid roof (Quran repeatedly called it roof or canopy) which mighty Allah separated by His mighty hands and hanged above without any pillars. Among the Egyptians for example, it was the involuntary separation of Geb (the Earth god) from his wife and sister Nut (the sky goddess) that was responsible for the division of the earth from the sky. The Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh likewise describes the moment „when the heavens had been separated from the earth, when the earth had been delimited from the heavens” as a result of the separation of a sky God (An) from an earth Goddess (Ki) [THHuxley]. We can easily find the root of this above verse (13:2) made up by Allah of the Quran. Question is do we get any science in this superstitious rubbish?

What is Big-bang theory?

The Big Bang is the cosmological model of the universe that is best supported by all lines of scientific evidence and observation. The essential idea is that the universe has expanded from a primordial hot and dense initial condition at some finite time in the past and continues to expand to this day [Wikepedia]. Moreover, Big Bang in Physics refers to the explosion of SPACE-TIME SINGULARITY (not matter). Matter was not even created when Big Bang happened approximately 15 Billion years ago. Earth was formed billions of years after the Big Bang by sheer cosmic evolutionary process.

By any means, Big bang theory has been just speculated by the scientists and is accepted by the majority of the scientists, and it is yet to be proven. What happens if in the future scientists come up with different theory of creation and discard this Big-bang theory altogether? What the hell these poor Islamists will do then? Truth is Quran never spoken anything that at all fits with the hypothetical discovery of Big-Bang theory discovered by modern science. Quranic perception of parting sky from the earth was purely based on ancient superstitious belief about our mysterious universe.

(17) The Universe is only 4,137 years old!

If we believe Quranic creation theory, or Biblical genealogy then, the age of this whole universe is less than five thousands year old. Islamic scriptures say that Allah has created this heaven and earth, from nothingness, within six days and after that He created Adam, the first human being; and Prophet Muhammad was the 90th descendant of Adam. According to calculation, considering 30 years to be the age difference between two successive generations, Allah created this heaven and earth only 4,137 years ago. On the contrary, geological experts say that the earth is more than 4.5 billion years old. Question is who is right about it? Allah was right or the modern scientists are right?

B. Some Embryological contradictions/errors

Man is Created From Clotted blood(?)

Then fashioned We the drop (semen) a CLOT OF CONGEALED BLOOD then fashioned We the clot a little lump (fetus), fashioned We the little lump into bones, then clothed the bones with flesh, and then produced it another creation. So blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators. [Quran-23:14]

(Bengali translations of the Quran read: „Zamaa’t Raokto theeke Manoosh banieesi” And this Ayat has been repeated again and again throughout the Quran)

• Then he becomes a CLOT; then (Allah) shaped and fashioned… [Quran-75:38]

• Created man, out of a mere clot of congealed blood [Quran-96:2]

There are serious scientific problems here.

A blood clot can not grow into anything. This idea came from the Greeks. Aristotle erroneously believed that humans are originated from the action of male semen upon female menstrual blood, which is absolutely an incorrect assumption. The Quran’s assertion on the clot (alaqa) is completely wrong about human development, since there is absolutely no stage during which the embryo consists of a clot. The only situation in which an embryo might appear like a clot is during a miscarriage, in which case the clotted blood which is seen to emerge (much of which comes from the mother) is solidified and by definition no longer alive. Therefore, if ever an embryo appeared to look like a clot it would never develop any further into a human; it would be a dead mass of bloody miscarriage. Since Prophet Muhammad had some thirteen wives it is entirely possible that he would be very familiar with miscarriages.

Modern science tells us that the formation of human embryo is a seamless continuation from conception to the birth; hence there are no hard-and-fast boundaries of stages as the Quran described. The Quran described 4 stages which match exactly with Galenic description of the development of the human embryo (which was proved wrong by modern science).

Creation of bones and clothing of bones with flesh: According to modern embryologists including Prof. Moore of Canada, the tissue from which bone originates, known as mesoderm, is the same tissue as that from which muscle (flesh) develops. Thus bone and muscles begin to develop simultaneously, rather than sequentially (as the Quran tells us). Moreover, most of the muscle tissue that we human have is laid down before birth, but bones continue to develop and calcify (strengthen with calcium) right into one’s teenage years. So it would be more accurate if the Quran had said that muscles started to develop at the same time as bones, but completed their development earlier. The idea that bones are clothed with flesh is not only scientifically completely wrong/false, but was directly copied from the ancient Greek doctor Galen’s hypothesis.

Also, the idea of saying: „made into bones and clothed the bones with muscle” came from the technique of making animal statues (Moorthy) out of rod and cement or mud. People usually make the skeleton (out of rod or stick) first and, then cover it up with cement or mud. This is scarcely a scientific description of embryonic development. It is rather a description of a layman.

Actually, what is very interesting about Quranic so called science are: Qur’anic scientific verses matches with Aristotle and Galenic theories of Embryology and Ptolemic Geo-centric theory of Astronomy which were prevailing almost thousand years before the arrival of qur’an. HOWEVER, ALL THESE THEORIES WERE PROVEN MOSTLY WRONG BY MODERN SCIENCE.
von_Daniken
(pseudo-charlatan)
31. март 2010. у 05.28
Quran foretold life from WATER

Let us find out from what Quran predicted origin of life from water. The Hindu scripture Veda (8000 B.C.) described origin of Earth and life from WATER of the SEA. The Great Greek Philosopher and Scientist THALES (640-546 B.C.) was the first Human to theorize that, Everything in this Universe was created from WATER OF THE SEA. Problem was, Thales could not provide any scientific proof. After that, ARISTOTLE (384-322 B.C.), the pupil of Plato and Tutor of Alexander the Great, concluded: „Because of the fact that, Plants & Animal body contains plenty of WATER and life needs WATER that was why THALES thought WATER WAS THE ORIGIN OF LIFE”. Therefore, Mankind did not have to wait until 7th century for Allah to say importance of WATER for life.

HONEY as the medicine

Wish full Islamists demand that Quran predicted Honey as the good medicine. Honey although it is not a great medicine by today’s context, was used by Ancient people as medicine and food for tens of thousands of years. Physicians of Pharaohs, the Kings pf Egypt, used to prescribe Honey for diseases. In pre-Islamic Arab, PAGANS widely used HONEY as medicine. In India, Ayurbedic medicine widely used HONEY as the ingredients of medicine thousands of years before the arrival of Qur’an. Honey was known as ‘Grandma’s Medicine’ throughout the Ancient World for thousands of years.

EVOLUTION VS. RELIGIOUS CREATION THEORY

Some Islamists often try to ridicule the theory of evolution in order to protect the obvious fallacies of the creation theory of religion. Most Islamists and orthodox religionists of other religions try to discard evolution theory. Interestingly, however, some of them also make futile attempts to explain the compatibility of religious creation theory with the theory of evolution! This is, of course, a hypocrisy; and a totally impossible and weird dream by those Islamists.

EVOLUTION is the greatest triumphs of human discovery. Evolution is not a peripheral subject but the central organizing principle of all biological sciences today. So no one ignorant of evolution can understand science. Secondly, evolution is as well documented as any phenomenon in science, as strongly as the Earth’s revolution around the sun rather than vice versa. Therefore, we can call evolution a „Fact”. Today’s biological sciences are directly propagating on the basis of evolution theory of Darwin.

For the last 100 years or so, the galloping advancement of science, particularly the life science, is purely on the basis of Darwin THEORY OF EVOLUTION and definitely not on the basis of CREATION THEORY. Science does not believe in CREATION theory and Religion does not believe in EVOLUTION theory. Truth is, if Religion wants to mix-up with evolution then, we shall have to consider Adam as Ape-like Neanderthal or Homo-erectus early human, and not a perfect human having all the intelligential qualities, as the Bible or Quran described.

Here in this Verse, Allah Challenges People: Who Can Tell Whether the Conceived is Male or Female (?)

• Verily the knowledge of the Hour is With God (alone). It is He Who sends down rain, and He who knows what is in the wombs of mothers…. [Quran-31:34]

Who does not believe the fact that, actually mankind can predict very accurately (99.5%) when rain will fall and can predict (99.8%) the sex of the child inside a mother’s womb? Scientists also predict that, in the next five years weather predictions will be successfully correct almost 100%. Perhaps Allah could not imagine this.

C. Historical blunders in Quran

In several Suras the Qur’an confuses Mary the mother of Jesus [Miriam in Hebrew] with Miriam the sister of Aaron and Moses, and daughter of Amram which is about 1400 years off.

„At length she brought (the babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms), They said: ”O Mary! Truly a strange thing has thou brought! „O sister of Aaron, thy father was not a man of evil, nor your mother a woman unchaste!” [Sura:19:27-28]

And Mary, the Daughter of Imran, who guarded her chastity, and We breathed into (her body) of our spirit; and she testified to the truth of the words of her Lord, and of His revelations, and was one of the devout (servants). [Sura:66:12]

Allah copied draconian code of law from the ancient king Hammurabi!

Hammurabi, the King of Babylonia, Mesopotamia (2900 B.C.) gave the low: Killing for revenge, i. e., „life for life, hand for hand, eye for eye, ears for ears, tooth for tooth and wounds equal for equal.”

And the Allah’s law in Qur’an [5:45] says: „life for life, hand for hand, eye for eye, ear for ear, tooth for tooth and wounds equal for equal.”

What is the difference between the code? Don’t we see any similarities between the judgment of King Hammurabi (a human), and Omnipotent Allah? Here in this decree of judgment, who probably copied from whom? Was not the Allah (which was Muhammad himself) copied from that Kaffir Hammurabi and sold it in the name of his imaginary Allah?

D. Some samples of utterly unethical verses in Quran

(1) Sex with slave girls


„Not so the worshippers, who are steadfast in prayer, who set aside a due portion of their wealth for the beggar and for the deprived, who truly believe in the Day of Reckoning and dread the punishment of their Lord (for none is secure from the punishment of their Lord); who restrain their carnal desire (save with their wives and their slave girls, for these are lawful to them: he that lusts after other than these is a transgressor…” [QURAN - 70:22-30]

This verse shows that Muslim men were allowed to have sex with their wives (of course) and their slave girls.

QURAN 23:5-6:

„…who restrain their carnal desires (except with their wives and slave girls, for these are lawful to them…”

Again, Muslim men were allowed to have sexual relations with their wives and slave girls.

QURAN - 4:24:

„And all married women are forbidden unto you save those captives whom your right hand possess. It is a decree of Allah for you. (Muhammad Pickthall’s English translation of the Quran).

QURAN - 33:50:

”Prophet, We have made lawful to you the wives whom you have granted dowries and the slave girls whom God has given you as booty;…„

This verse is for Muhammad. Supposedly, God allows Muhammad to have sex with his slave girls.

The above verses are only a few I have mentioned out of numerous such verses scattered throughout the Quran. What could be more unethical matter than having sex with slave girls? Allah (SBT) graciously allowed Muslims to have sex with slave girls. Prophet Muhammad himself and his disciples routinely used to have sex with their slave girls. Islamic apologists try to make the truth foggy by their wishful excuse that, actually Allah meant to say, ”Muslims can have sex with slave girls after marrying them„. Problem is after the slave girl is married by a Muslim man, how in the world Allah or any sane person can still call that wife (slave-wife) as the slave girl? Does a slave girl never change her title even after she is married?

Many erudite Islamic pundits emphatically claim that Allah sent Quran as the super guidance for not only Muslims, but for all mankind. My questions to them are as follows:

a) Could you tell us in which country on earth this super guidance is followed?

b) Could you tell us if you find some man in any civilized country having sex with his slave girl, what will be your conclusion about that guy?

c) Should all human kind follow this unethical Quranic guidance to day?

(2) Hilla Marriage-A curse, shame, and humiliation for women
So if a husband Divorces his wife (irrevocably), he can not, after that, re-marry her until after she has married another husband and he has divorced her. In that case there is no blame on either of them if they re-unite; provided they feel that they can keep the limits ordained by God [Quran-2:230, Yousuf Ali].

Sahi Bukhari: #564:

Syed ibne ukair..Aisha (ra) narrated that wife of Rifakurzi told to the apostle of God that (because) my husband Rifa has divorced me I married another man named Abdur rahman ibne kurzi but I want to go back to my former husband. Then Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) told—if you want to go back to your former husband you must have sex with Abdur Rahman and then if he divorce you then you can go to your former husband, otherwise it can not happen.

My dear honorable readers how do you like these above Quranic verse and sahi hadith? Are they sounding ethical to at all? After reading the above holy verse#2:230—any elementary student will agree with me that, Qur’an and Hadith strongly and clearly commands for Hilla marriage to purify the divorced wife to be taken back by the former husband. The irony is, how can this Hilla marriage do the purification of an innocent divorced wife? Who is at fault, in the first place, in this scenario of a hasty divorce? Quite obviously it was the husband who had made the mistake. Then, why in the world poor wife has to be punished (sleep with another strange man) for the crime she did not commit? Because, of all merciful Allah said so in the Holy Qur’an, Period. What a compassionate judgment from our Merciful Allah!”
von_Daniken
(pseudo-charlatan)
31. март 2010. у 05.31
E. Self-contradictory Quranic verses

Which one is correct:

• There is no Compulsion in religion…. [Quran-2:256]

OR

• Fight those who do not profess the true faith (Islam) till they pay the polltax (jiziya) with the hand of humility. [Quran-9:29]

• Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them and take them captive, and besiege them and prepare for them each ambush…. [Quran-9:5]

• When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off their heads…. [Quran-47:4]

• And slay (kill) them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out such is the reward of those who suppress faith. [Quran-2:191]

• O Apostle! Rouse the believers to the fight…(against) unbelievers. [Quran-8: 65]

Very often apologetics claim that, Islam is a religion of peace and there is no compulsion. Yet, punishment of an apostate in Islam is, of course, death penalty.



F. Meaningless Recitation of Quranic verses

Millions of devoutly fanatical and gullible Muslims (Arabs and non-Arabs) recite (parroting) Quranic verses at least 5 times daily. Strange thing is non-Arab Muslims do not understand the meaning of a single word at all. Yet, unlike any others, Muslims recite their Quran like ‘Tantor Montor’ or ‘Abra-ka-dabra’ of a magician, or like „Mantro” of a witch hunter. From the very childhood brainwashing, these Muslims were taught that reciting Holy Quran even without understanding any meaning is the best practice of worshipping Allah and can earn unlimited blessings from Allah. Therefore, these Islamic Zombies recite Quranic verses with sweet melodious voice daily, and they will also recite Quranic verses during their daily five time prayers. Even western educated highly qualified devout Muslims have no qualm or shame that they do not really understand what they are reciting from the Qur’an.

Among the Muslim majority nations—there is a special and very prestigious degree awarded by Madrasshas called „Hafez” to religious student who has memorize entire Qur’an, of course, without understanding the meaning of anything. These so called genius ‘Hafezes’ regarded as the best and highly pious Muslims, even though, these Islamic robots hardly understand anything of Quran! Annually, all Muslim nations will stage ‘Hafez-competition’ in which many Hafezes will compete to perform their better recitation (like a well trained and tamed parrot) and best award will be given to the winners of this hilarious competition.

Their superstitious belief in Quran is so strong that some unscrupulous Mullahs even sell Quranic verses as disease-curing medicine in the form of ‘bullets’ they call it ‘Tabiz’. And this practice of Quranic medicine is very much flourishing business in most Muslim majority nations. Because of these erroneous and superstitious belief systems among the Muslims, quack medical practices and bogus Sufi saints (Pir, Fakir, dervish and Allah’s agents or religious ascetic or mendicant wonder workers) are prolific & flourishing who by their cunning tactics of deception randomly plunders the hard-earned wealth from those millions of gullible poor and rich Muslims.

Funny thing is, they will recite Quranic verses (while praying) which actually dictate prohibition of some deeds; but they never follow the scriptural dictum and practice the same prohibited deeds anyway. Because they did not get the actual message, since they simply did not understand the meaning of the verse. On the other hand, say, they will recite the verses (with melodious songs) that dictate to kill or cut the neck of non-Muslims but (fortunately) they will not cut the neck of non-Muslims since they did not understand a word of it. Or, the Imam in the Mosque will recite verses that actually describe menstruation (women’s monthly physiological period) is illness (?) and prohibition of sexual act during that period. Interestingly, the Imam will do this strange recitation for the Muslim congregation comprised of men and women—and they all will utter „Ameen” in a chorus like some tamed parrots. Such is their blind belief in Islamic Qur’an.
von_Daniken
(pseudo-charlatan)
31. март 2010. у 05.33
MAURICE BUCAILLE , na koga se pozivaju!

Who was Maurice Bucaille? Was he a world famous scientist? Or, Was he a Nobel laureate? Or, was he an authority in theology, Embryology, or Astronomical science?

ANSWER IS NONE OF THE ABOVE.

Maurice Bucaille was an ordinary French Physician and lived in Saudi Arabia as an expatriate doctor to Saudi Royal family. He was not a better doctor than any of those hundreds of Bangladeshi or Indian expatriate Physician working in Saudi Arabia. But because, he was the Physician for Saudi King family he developed a special relation with Saudi King. To keep religious trade (Dharma Bebosha) booming, Saudi king asked him to write a book highlighting Qur’anic sciences for which the King offered him $6 million dollars. Clever French Doctor wrote the book „The Bible, The Quran and Science”, got $ 6 millions and got another $ 2 millions by selling his book (according to Dr. Campbell). This book was sold in Islamic World like a hot cake. It was told that, this doctor distorted the actual translation of Holy Qur’an by intentional/selective choosing of various meanings of Arabic words in order to match his theory of scientific explanation.

DR. WILLIAM F CAMPBELL

Who is Dr. William F. Campbell?

William Campbell is an American Physician who was an expatriate doctor for the family of the King of Tunisia for 20 years. After learning about the book of Dr. Bucaille, he wrote a book of 300 pages categorically rebutting Dr. Bucaille’s book. I urge readers to read Dr. Campbell’s book and see for themselves.

Conclusion

The contradictions I have illustrated in this article are only some samples, and of course, not exhaustive of the list. Quran is replete with them. As I mentioned earlier, all most all Quranic verse are self-explanatory. That is, when a verse is read, it gives a certain picture of the situation in which or, a particular circumstance due to which a particular verse was written down. It’s language of expression (no matter in which language) is very plain and simple. By reading a Quranic verse—one can easily see the inner-point/meanings, as to why and what actually Islamic Allah wanted to tell. As far I know, earlier translated Qurans (e.g. Maulana Yousuf Ali, Maulana Mahiuddin Khan, Maulana Fazlur Rahman Munshi and many others) were fairly sincere in their work of translation of original Arabic Quran. In those translated Quran, nobody claimed any trace of modern science. Since the „Urekha” created by Maurice Bucaille, our educated mullahs (not real mullahs) started discovering lots of science in Quran. Recently, some real educated Mullahs translated Quran with pick & choose word meanings from original Arabic Quran. They find alternate word meanings and choose the word which matches their intended purpose of explaining modern science. But they forgot that, actual scenario/circumstances of the Ayats do not at all match their wishful explanation.

In Bengali society there is a proverb: „Ka baalte Kalikatta buz’en” (you understand Calcutta when ‘C’ is uttered). But in this subject of Quranic interpretation, wishful Mullahs make „Ka” not just (only) Kalikatta, they can make Bombay, Madras, Delhi, Karachi, London, New York and what not by ‘Ka’. They can make almost anything to make a good match to Allah’s saying. And they do not even care whether people can swallow it or not.

Finally, I maintain my assertion that Qur’an possesses many contradictions/scientific flaws, ethical, historical and logical blunders and of course ample inconsistencies and redundancies. Yet, wishful apologists will never see what we can see, because of this great saying mentioned below:

„The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract.” -Oliver Wendell Holmes.
lesselier
(zeza)
31. март 2010. у 15.56
Prilično si se potrudio.
Dokazao si da je tvoje srce crno, da crnje ne može biti.
A onaj deo o evoluciji ti je najjači.
Hahahahahahahahaha.

E sada, kada si izneo sve ove „cinjenice”, pitam ja tebe, a i isve ostale:

Šta ima veću tezinu?

1. Stvari koje si ti naveo i koje su izvucene iz konteksta, ili

2. Stvari koje sam ja naveo sa imenima, svedocenjima, tvrdnjama i video snimcima vrhunskih naucnika?

Pokusaj njih da opovrgnes!!!

NIGDE, ama bas NIGDE nisi naveo nijednog naucnika koji će izneti naučne cinjenice koje bi govorile u tvoju korist.
Znaš li zašto?
Zato sto takvih NEMA!!!

Sa druge strane, ja imam na desetine podataka o naucnicima koji govore u moju korist.

Uzivaj sinak.
bayernfc
(Sve)
01. април 2010. у 07.09
lesselier BAS SI MU FINO NAOPISAO... od onolikih dokaza od naucnika on i danas dan nevjeruje daje Kuran Allahova knjiga. Vadi sa nekih linkova ajete iz Kurana koje nisu ni čitav Ajeti izvrnuti itd, kao sto sam ranije na isti način njemu dokazao da previse vijeruje NEVJENICIMA a on ponovo po starom...

Bitno je da svijeski naucnici VIJERUJU U KURAN DAJE OD BOGA..I sto ISTRAZUJU (traže) godinima pronadju i u cansnom Kuranu ISTINU i potvrde daje Kuran od Allaha.. i većinom od njiha umiru kao Muslimani, kao Alber Ajstana KAžE ALLAHA JE NAJVECI... ALLAH IST GROSS...!!!

bayernfc
(Sve)
02. април 2010. у 03.32
DONKEN TVRDI

šta ti mislis shabane je li ovaj psihopata dok je ubijao pozivao Isusa hrista ili Jehovu ili da je to uradio iz nekog religioznog razloga??Sumnjam, on bi to sam spomenuo. mrdjutim,kod vas su ubistva motivisana kuranom i hadisom.

kada ti pokazem ajete iz kurana , citirane, ti lupaš minuse, znaš šta to znaci, ti podsvjesno pljujes na kuran, znaci kod vas se vidi jedan dobar korak koji vodi izlasku iz islama jer ocigledno da vam se gade ti ajeti!!dobro je da je tako..mogu samo da vas pohvalim...srećno!!razmisli malo o tome ako imaš cime.. zapamti, sto vise minusa dajete to su blize vrata koja vode iz islama!!! svaka cast
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KAžE Ja lupam minuse...evo dokaza koliko laže na ovoj temi...
jezekija
(tehnolog)
03. април 2010. у 18.47
čim pocnete 5 puta dnevno da klanjate,postajete kao roboti...morate prvo levom nogom uci u WC,nemate vi pojma šta je islam...video bih vas u Jemenu...ili Iranu...dosao bi vam islam glave...jadni su ti narodi...
lesselier
(zeza)
04. април 2010. у 18.12
morate prvo levom nogom uci u WC...

Vidis kako ti je nešto ostalo u toj bolesnoj glavi.
Isto tako, vidis da se kod nas i najmanji detalji znaju.
Doka vi jadni ne znate ni kome se molite.
poBunjeNik_1
(iz supljoga u prazno,pa opet i)
07. април 2010. у 05.19
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poBunjeNik_1
(vodu vario-vodu ladio)
07. април 2010. у 05.23
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